Look at No Mans Sky. Everyone and their grandmother is praising the shit out of it.

1: You must see No Mans Sky. Its going to be amazing.

2: Oh yeah? Whats it about?

1: You explore planets....and.........do some spaceship shooting.................

2: Ok. Whats the story? Do you find treasures on these planets? How is the combat system?

1: .....................................just fucking buy the game.

Stick around long enough and you'll help a full helping of weird.

When Vita released people complained that the problem was that it tried to have full console like games on it when handheld gamers wanted bit sized gaming.

Now people hate mobile games because they aren't full sized console like games and are bit sized. They love the 3DS because it has full console like titles like Mario 3D Land, Kingdom Hearts, Tales of the Abyss, Pokemon and Bravely Default.

Arguements shift left and right to fit agendas.

Enjoy your stay here at VGChartz.

Euphoria14 said: You gotta also love how so many here loved the Wii, yet it was full of crap games like they bitch about with the app store or Indie scene. People just like to pretend consoles have been immune to low quality titles being released on them.

I think you missed the part where I said that the we have the same amount of indie games compared to last gen, the difference is that now they are getting marketed (heavily) by all 3 console manufactures.

osed125 said: Euphoria14 said: You gotta also love how so many here loved the Wii, yet it was full of crap games like they bitch about with the app store or Indie scene. People just like to pretend consoles have been immune to low quality titles being released on them. I think you missed the part where I said that the we have the same amount of indie games compared to last gen, the difference is that now they are getting marketed (heavily) by all 3 console manufactures.

You are one person, so you are obviously not part of the group I was talking about.

Still, there is no problem in indie titles getting marketing to help them make sales.

You want more mid tier games? Where do you think they are going to come from? Growing indie companies, rather than focusing on only the fat cats and making them fatter.

Who are those people i only see people on Internet saying that but in reallity no one hate console like games on Vita when i show my Vita to my friends i show them super stardust my friend said how could you buy this crap and when i show them AAA games many of them want to buy a Vita

Yes. God forbid original and fun games made by smaller studios get some love and attention!

They all get love and attention...

I'm tired of bad games period. If a game is good, I don't care if it's 1st/2nd/3rd party or Indie - I'll play it.

When it comes to owning consoles, being on the outside is so much better than inside. You have this machine that has maybe 3-4 games you like so far and you're just left to twist in the wind while awaiting new games.

On the outside though? I get to ignore the shovelware and build a list of the good games that have released - not been announced, released - and when that list has reached the "magic number", I go get my console.

So no, I don't mind the "indie boom" as much as I mind Capcom's on disc DLC(and as you can see, they're about to bite the dust) because I can ignore it.

Of course you only see people on the internet saying that. That was the point of my post. It is in regards to VGChartz. Mainly in the days before the Vita users migrated to the Official Vita thread.

In the real world the Vita problem is that it costs $200 to buy it and then you need to spend $40-$50 to buy a game and also need to buy overpriced memory cards, meanwhile people having phones that give them great gaming for $1-$5. Vita is still stupidly expensive for what it is. Sony should revamp it entirely, with an Android based OS and give it full access to the Play store. I would love to move over to the Vita to play Brave Frontier instgead of my iPhone and it's smaller screen. Not going to happen though...

I love mine, especially for remote play and free PS+ titles. Can't beat free.

No man's sky is about whatever you make it to  be. There are fleets of ships that you can ally yourself with or make enemies of. There is space combat as well as ground combat. The problen isn't in no man's sky, but in your own narrow definition of what it should be. It's not a cinematic experience, you don't get mmo type quests where you're told to go kill 5 gnolls or something stupid like that.

You do explore planets, you can collect resources for trade if you want. You can do whatever it is you want. The idea of finding a "treasure" is incredibly gamey anyways.