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hunter_alien said:
Everything points at the fact that he was a pedophile... should have died earlier if its true.

No....it doesn't.



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hunter_alien said:
Everything points at the fact that he was a pedophile... should have died earlier if its true.


Considering that he hung around with 1000's of kids during his lifetime there is actual little to no true evidence that he was a pedophile.  He was weird I give you that but so are most people that where physically and verbally abused as kids.



adriane23 said:
hunter_alien said:
Everything points at the fact that he was a pedophile... should have died earlier if its true.

No....it doesn't.


So we forget the kiddy porn found in his house, and only rermember the "art" he created? Cool... Abused as a child. Yeah, and millions more, still didnt made them the freak that was MJ.

Lets be honest, he was a decent singer, but he was more like a monster rather then a person. Oh well, if there are some people who still think that Hitler was cool, why am I surprised about their opinion on MJ?



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hunter_alien said:
adriane23 said:
hunter_alien said:
Everything points at the fact that he was a pedophile... should have died earlier if its true.

No....it doesn't.


So we forget the kiddy porn found in his house, and only rermember the "art" he created? Cool... Abused as a child. Yeah, and millions more, still didnt made them the freak that was MJ.

Lets be honest, he was a decent singer, but he was more like a monster rather then a person. Oh well, if there are some people who still think that Hitler was cool, why am I surprised about their opinion on MJ?

"Robson testified that he believed Jackson had a "sexual interest in women," and that he had never seen "anything that suggested pedophilia" at Neverland.[56] Jackson's multiple residences were searched multiple times by multiple agencies over a period of days, without any child pornography ever being found. The FBI analyzed sixteen computers and found "nothing notable" according to their files."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_Michael_Jackson#Pornography

And don't give me any BS about Wikipedia not being a credible enough source. And yes, the full portion of that Wikipedia entryu does state that they found a few questionable things in his home of a sexual nature. It also revelaed the "victim" was lying about events that occurred.

It seems to me like you latched onto "kiddy porn" (interesting choice of words by the way) a long time ago and just ignored the facts and logic for years. If there was actual child porn found in his home he would've been charged and convicted of possessing child pornography regardless of whether they could prove that he was a molester. Did you even comprehend what you wrote? Did you think that they found child pornography in his home and was like, "Aha! We caught you red handed of a crime, but we're just going to add it to the evidence for the molestation charge instead of introducing a new concrete charge of child pornography possession......Because we're morons."

Michael Jackson was a strange man and he even had questionable things in his home (if you consider homosexual things questionable in 2014), but there was no evidence that he molested children other than people saying that he did.

EDIT: Here's a little more light reading for you.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/charles-thomson/one-of-the-most-shameful_b_610258.html



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adriane23 said:

"Robson testified that he believed Jackson had a "sexual interest in women," and that he had never seen "anything that suggested pedophilia" at Neverland.[56] Jackson's multiple residences were searched multiple times by multiple agencies over a period of days, without any child pornography ever being found. The FBI analyzed sixteen computers and found "nothing notable" according to their files."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_Michael_Jackson#Pornography

And don't give me any BS about Wikipedia not being a credible enough source. And yes, the full portion of that Wikipedia entryu does state that they found a few questionable things in his home of a sexual nature. It also revelaed the "victim" was lying about events that occurred.

It seems to me like you latched onto "kiddy porn" (interesting choice of words by the way) a long time ago and just ignored the facts and logic for years. If there was actual child porn found in his home he would've been charged and convicted of possessing child pornography regardless of whether they could prove that he was a molester. Did you even comprehend what you wrote? Did you think that they found child pornography in his home and was like, "Aha! We caught you red handed of a crime, but we're just going to add it to the evidence for the molestation charge instead of introducing a new concrete charge of child pornography possession......Because we're morons."

Michael Jackson was a strange man and he even had questionable things in his home (if you consider homosexual things questionable in 2014), but there was no evidence that he molested children other than people saying that he did.

EDIT: Here's a little more light reading for you.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/charles-thomson/one-of-the-most-shameful_b_610258.html


Kiddy porn is the most frequently used sinonim for that filth that is pedophile pornography. Also it is Wikipedia, like it or not, just because you point it out to me, it doesnt make any difference.

He was a drug addict and he had underage male modeling magazines in his house, even in his bathroom. No matter what fans believe, how the media wants to shed positive light on him, after his death, there is no denieing IMO. But hey, the fact that a carcrash of a humam being is the author shouldent distract you from enjoying his work

 

PS: Huffington Post... Here, take my badge of reliability my dear friend.



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hunter_alien said:
Everything points at the fact that he was a pedophile... should have died earlier if its true.

I don't see how there can be any doubt that it was true. Dude was an incredible artist, probably the GOAT, but he was a pedo and a creep in general. His death didn't bother me at all. Drug related deaths usually don't, but sometimes there is a twinge of tradgedy to them. Heath Ledger, Corey Haim to name a couple. His though.. nope. If there's a hell, he's burning in it right now.



LudicrousSpeed said:
hunter_alien said:
Everything points at the fact that he was a pedophile... should have died earlier if its true.

I don't see how there can be any doubt that it was true. Dude was an incredible artist, probably the GOAT, but he was a pedo and a creep in general. His death didn't bother me at all. Drug related deaths usually don't, but sometimes there is a twinge of tradgedy to them. Heath Ledger, Corey Haim to name a couple. His though.. nope. If there's a hell, he's burning in it right now.


I have no idea. And when you call them out, the MJ Deffense Force jumps to your neck Totally agree with you, there are plenty of quality human beings that die of drug related isssues. MJ was NOT one of them.



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spurgeonryan said:
I know. He is a legend. In 50 years people other than historians will forget about all the small details, just remembering or knowing that he was a great musician/performer. Not realising he destroyed his body and life to get that big.


I think the diddling will always be first and foremost in peoples minds.



I would like to see how the people that are quick to judge him as a pedophile even though there is little to no evidence supporting that claim would have turned out if Joe Jackson would have been their father.



hunter_alien said:
adriane23 said:
hunter_alien said:
Everything points at the fact that he was a pedophile... should have died earlier if its true.

No....it doesn't.


So we forget the kiddy porn found in his house, and only rermember the "art" he created? Cool... Abused as a child. Yeah, and millions more, still didnt made them the freak that was MJ.

Lets be honest, he was a decent singer, but he was more like a monster rather then a person. Oh well, if there are some people who still think that Hitler was cool, why am I surprised about their opinion on MJ?

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