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Actually, it already did happen. It was called nazism and communism.

The difference between nazism and the inquisition for example, is that instead of trying to convince people to burn heretics, jews and saracens because of twisted fairytale versions of the Bible, it was the secular rationalization of atheism that pushed them to industrialize the killing of any resistant, jews, muslims and others...

Will it ever happen again? Well if you know the theory/litterature about a "Brave New World" or "New World Order", a kind of globalized western secular regime that glorifies money, information, entertainment and technology instead of humanism, evolution, spirituality and differences, then yes, it's possible, if the western countries win a WWIII after their complete collapse (which is currently and slowly undergoing), but very very unlikely since History are cycles and the tides will probably turn against the west.



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prayformojo said:

What is your opinion on the growing hypothesis that we may all be living inside of a super computer? I've seen that some of the leading minds in science have started leaning towards this idea and have begun primitive testing.

Personally, it fascinates me because if something like that were true, and science could actually prove that we were all created by an evolved being inside of a complex set of code, for the first time in human history, science and religion would blend together as one. 



my opinion is, if as described, that it is one of the most deplorable ideas ever conceived. to postulate that the universe is some form of computer simulation is absurd in the utmost respect. humans invented the device that is used to run reality? so essentially humans are contingent upon the device that they invented which is contingent upon them. sounds like a circle jerk of stupid.

DarkWraith said:
prayformojo said:

What is your opinion on the growing hypothesis that we may all be living inside of a super computer? I've seen that some of the leading minds in science have started leaning towards this idea and have begun primitive testing.

Personally, it fascinates me because if something like that were true, and science could actually prove that we were all created by an evolved being inside of a complex set of code, for the first time in human history, science and religion would blend together as one. 



my opinion is, if as described, that it is one of the most deplorable ideas ever conceived. to postulate that the universe is some form of computer simulation is absurd in the utmost respect. humans invented the device that is used to run reality? so essentially humans are contingent upon the device that they invented which is contingent upon them. sounds like a circle jerk of stupid.


With all due respect, that is some extremely narrow minded thinking. If Einstein had thought that way... goodness. It sounds to me that you're letting your beliefs or lack thereof, get in the way. In science, nothing is certain until proven otherwise. You can believe something but that doesn't make it so and visa versa. 

I believe in the pursuit of truth and knowledge. If that leads us to a creator, then so be it. If it lead us towards the opposite, so be it as well. 



6,000 years is the timeline the Earth and the universe was magically created by God. I love it when religious creationist try and use religion to argue against science. There is countless evidence that indicates the Earth and the universe is a minimum of 6 billion years old.



I'm agnostic, but let's be realistic here. Religion is never going to illegal in America.

Less influential? Yes. Illegal? No.



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maybe someday.



prayformojo said:
DarkWraith said:
prayformojo said:

What is your opinion on the growing hypothesis that we may all be living inside of a super computer? I've seen that some of the leading minds in science have started leaning towards this idea and have begun primitive testing.

Personally, it fascinates me because if something like that were true, and science could actually prove that we were all created by an evolved being inside of a complex set of code, for the first time in human history, science and religion would blend together as one. 



my opinion is, if as described, that it is one of the most deplorable ideas ever conceived. to postulate that the universe is some form of computer simulation is absurd in the utmost respect. humans invented the device that is used to run reality? so essentially humans are contingent upon the device that they invented which is contingent upon them. sounds like a circle jerk of stupid.


With all due respect, that is some extremely narrow minded thinking. If Einstein had thought that way... goodness. It sounds to me that you're letting your beliefs or lack thereof, get in the way. In science, nothing is certain until proven otherwise. You can believe something but that doesn't make it so and visa versa. 

I believe in the pursuit of truth and knowledge. If that leads us to a creator, then so be it. If it lead us towards the opposite, so be it as well. 



? did you even read my comment? your response has absolutely nothing to do with what I said. put down the beer and think a little bit about what I said please. humans invented computers and software. so, how is it possible that reality is a computer simulation? it's barking mad. you clearly do not know much about einstein, his dogmatic fealty to hard determinism hindered his progress when he wasted countless time attempting to resolve heisenberg's uncertainty principle.

I'm open to anything that is justified, you seem to be open to absurdities. I have no respect for that, nor would I care for that person's respect.

No. No. No. You didn't read Revelation correctly, Spurge.

In the end there will be one world religion.



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The same token that people use to argue against separation of church and state would make it very much illegal for the US government to outlaw Christianity or any religion. So unless the government decides to just forget about that whole Constitution thing (more than it already has), or the amendment process is changed to where only the states of Washington and perhaps New York have a voice in what passes, then no, that won't happen.



Is there even a single atheist politician in any major office in all of US? The electorate overwhelmingly prefers religious candidates.

The United States is immensely religious, and according to studies, atheists are the most loathed and mistrusted group -Americans even prefer hard-line muslims over atheists.

So chances of religion becoming illegal in US? 0%