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jnemesh on 27 June 2014
platformmaster918 said:
jnemesh said:
platformmaster918 said:
MS is in a dead heat this holiday with Sony and then 2015 it looks like Sony is starting to gain the edge. Even if a game is on Ps3 like LBP3 or LoU Remastered, the perceived value of the PS4 keeps increasing because A.)those games are better and best played on PS4 and B.) they will be advertised and exhibited on PS4 which is only right because they are a legit reason to buy the system just like MCC is a reason to buy Xbox. Then you've got all the great Plus games which just keep coming (and will include Driveclub this October) which help word of mouth and of course Destiny and FC4 favoritism which helps PS4. Then in February you've got The Order and Bloodborne with Uncharted ready to balance out Halo in the blockbuster department at the holidays (not in sales probably but again in perceived value).


If you mean by "Dead Heat" being outsold three to one, yep...

well I'm talking incentive to buy.  Halo, Forza, and Sunset balance out with LBP, Driveclub, and LoU as far as games the others don't have (plus indies though I don't know when most of those are scheduled to come out.  Now of course the Destiny bundle and FC4 advertising may skew things in PS4's favor but lest we forget MS's traditionally stronger holidays and US sales presence (where Christmas is strongest) where they will be advertising the COD DLC once again and maybe have a bundle with COD and/or ACU (judging by E3 demo).


Well, if you liked what you saw, and are interested in those titles, then sure.  That's a personal preference thing.  But I don't think the MAJORITY of gamers who HAVEN'T decided yet will be swayed by that lineup.  Most chatter you hear online are from people more excited about titles like Destiny, Assasin's Creed, COD, and other big name multiplatform titles...and by now, everyone knows those games will look and play better on the PS4 (and have exclusive content to boot on most)

As far as the exclusive count, I don't think many people noticed, but there are a LOT of Sony exclusive titles that were not mentioned at E3...I am betting by the end of Gamescon and the TGS you will see another 4-6 BIG Sony exclusive titles announced.  As far as exclusive titles go...Sony has ALWAYS had significantly more...even last gen.  It should be no surprise to anyone that they have more exclusives this gen.  All you have to do is go to wikipedia and look for "List of Xbox One Games" and "List of PS4 games" to see a comparison of everything that has been announced and confirmed so far...it's not even close!

We will see how things play out the rest of this year...but I am betting that the Xbox continues to sell at it's current slow pace, while PS4 starts widening the lead, even in the US and UK.  It's not about being a fan, or being particularly loyal to Sony, just so you know...I bought (several) Xbox 360s last generation along with my PS3...but this gen we have one console that wasn't designed with games as the priority, to me it's about supporting the console that does.



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Rafie on 27 June 2014
jnemesh said:
platformmaster918 said:
jnemesh said:
platformmaster918 said:
MS is in a dead heat this holiday with Sony and then 2015 it looks like Sony is starting to gain the edge. Even if a game is on Ps3 like LBP3 or LoU Remastered, the perceived value of the PS4 keeps increasing because A.)those games are better and best played on PS4 and B.) they will be advertised and exhibited on PS4 which is only right because they are a legit reason to buy the system just like MCC is a reason to buy Xbox. Then you've got all the great Plus games which just keep coming (and will include Driveclub this October) which help word of mouth and of course Destiny and FC4 favoritism which helps PS4. Then in February you've got The Order and Bloodborne with Uncharted ready to balance out Halo in the blockbuster department at the holidays (not in sales probably but again in perceived value).


If you mean by "Dead Heat" being outsold three to one, yep...

well I'm talking incentive to buy.  Halo, Forza, and Sunset balance out with LBP, Driveclub, and LoU as far as games the others don't have (plus indies though I don't know when most of those are scheduled to come out.  Now of course the Destiny bundle and FC4 advertising may skew things in PS4's favor but lest we forget MS's traditionally stronger holidays and US sales presence (where Christmas is strongest) where they will be advertising the COD DLC once again and maybe have a bundle with COD and/or ACU (judging by E3 demo).


Well, if you liked what you saw, and are interested in those titles, then sure.  That's a personal preference thing.  But I don't think the MAJORITY of gamers who HAVEN'T decided yet will be swayed by that lineup.  Most chatter you hear online are from people more excited about titles like Destiny, Assasin's Creed, COD, and other big name multiplatform titles...and by now, everyone knows those games will look and play better on the PS4 (and have exclusive content to boot on most)

As far as the exclusive count, I don't think many people noticed, but there are a LOT of Sony exclusive titles that were not mentioned at E3...I am betting by the end of Gamescon and the TGS you will see another 4-6 BIG Sony exclusive titles announced.  As far as exclusive titles go...Sony has ALWAYS had significantly more...even last gen.  It should be no surprise to anyone that they have more exclusives this gen.  All you have to do is go to wikipedia and look for "List of Xbox One Games" and "List of PS4 games" to see a comparison of everything that has been announced and confirmed so far...it's not even close!

We will see how things play out the rest of this year...but I am betting that the Xbox continues to sell at it's current slow pace, while PS4 starts widening the lead, even in the US and UK.  It's not about being a fan, or being particularly loyal to Sony, just so you know...I bought (several) Xbox 360s last generation along with my PS3...but this gen we have one console that wasn't designed with games as the priority, to me it's about supporting the console that does.

Well we shouldn't get ahead of ourselves with that. The Xbox has a good amount of great games coming. Sales will definitely go up at a good pace. Also the U.S. is THEE market that can go either way. Even now. That market is never set in stone.



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Kane1389 on 27 June 2014

A link from misterxmedia? MISTERXMEDIA ????? This is a joke post, right? I mean, misterxmedia????




















...MISTERXMEDIA?????




DonFerrari on 27 June 2014
Kane1389 said:
A link from misterxmedia? MISTERXMEDIA ????? This is a joke post, right? I mean, misterxmedia????












mine is, his I dunno.







...MISTERXMEDIA?????





duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari on 27 June 2014
DigitalDevilSummoner said:
Tabular said:
Lol at some people not knowing who misterxmedia is. Hint: he's delusional.

Pretty much. It's a joke to some but really sad at the same time.

Mods should take these threads down.


No giggles against misterxmedia bs is allowed?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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KLXVER on 27 June 2014

They had the better paced conference, but Sony just showed more games Im interested in...



Dark Chaos on 27 June 2014

Don't understand why Troll threads are allowed.



Keegs79 on 27 June 2014
DonFerrari said:

misterxmedia.livejournal.com/169473.html

there is no reason to think Sony have any chance in the second semester of the year, X1 will come strong to destroy Ps4.


You think Microsoft won based on what was not at E3? I am sorry to tell you because your post seems like a desperate attempt to stir support but Microsoft is not going to recoup from their mistakes. The PS3 in the end outsold the 360 and the PS4 with the lead will always hold it by correcting their mistakes with the PS3. They might get a big boost in the States and I expect that is all.

 

Good luck on your wishes!



DonFerrari on 27 June 2014
Keegs79 said:
DonFerrari said:

misterxmedia.livejournal.com/169473.html

there is no reason to think Sony have any chance in the second semester of the year, X1 will come strong to destroy Ps4.


You think Microsoft won based on what was not at E3? I am sorry to tell you because your post seems like a desperate attempt to stir support but Microsoft is not going to recoup from their mistakes. The PS3 in the end outsold the 360 and the PS4 with the lead will always hold it by correcting their mistakes with the PS3. They might get a big boost in the States and I expect that is all.

 

Good luck on your wishes!

Ahhhh ok?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

platformmaster918 on 28 June 2014
jnemesh said:
platformmaster918 said:
jnemesh said:
platformmaster918 said:
MS is in a dead heat this holiday with Sony and then 2015 it looks like Sony is starting to gain the edge. Even if a game is on Ps3 like LBP3 or LoU Remastered, the perceived value of the PS4 keeps increasing because A.)those games are better and best played on PS4 and B.) they will be advertised and exhibited on PS4 which is only right because they are a legit reason to buy the system just like MCC is a reason to buy Xbox. Then you've got all the great Plus games which just keep coming (and will include Driveclub this October) which help word of mouth and of course Destiny and FC4 favoritism which helps PS4. Then in February you've got The Order and Bloodborne with Uncharted ready to balance out Halo in the blockbuster department at the holidays (not in sales probably but again in perceived value).


If you mean by "Dead Heat" being outsold three to one, yep...

well I'm talking incentive to buy.  Halo, Forza, and Sunset balance out with LBP, Driveclub, and LoU as far as games the others don't have (plus indies though I don't know when most of those are scheduled to come out.  Now of course the Destiny bundle and FC4 advertising may skew things in PS4's favor but lest we forget MS's traditionally stronger holidays and US sales presence (where Christmas is strongest) where they will be advertising the COD DLC once again and maybe have a bundle with COD and/or ACU (judging by E3 demo).


Well, if you liked what you saw, and are interested in those titles, then sure.  That's a personal preference thing.  But I don't think the MAJORITY of gamers who HAVEN'T decided yet will be swayed by that lineup.  Most chatter you hear online are from people more excited about titles like Destiny, Assasin's Creed, COD, and other big name multiplatform titles...and by now, everyone knows those games will look and play better on the PS4 (and have exclusive content to boot on most)

As far as the exclusive count, I don't think many people noticed, but there are a LOT of Sony exclusive titles that were not mentioned at E3...I am betting by the end of Gamescon and the TGS you will see another 4-6 BIG Sony exclusive titles announced.  As far as exclusive titles go...Sony has ALWAYS had significantly more...even last gen.  It should be no surprise to anyone that they have more exclusives this gen.  All you have to do is go to wikipedia and look for "List of Xbox One Games" and "List of PS4 games" to see a comparison of everything that has been announced and confirmed so far...it's not even close!

We will see how things play out the rest of this year...but I am betting that the Xbox continues to sell at it's current slow pace, while PS4 starts widening the lead, even in the US and UK.  It's not about being a fan, or being particularly loyal to Sony, just so you know...I bought (several) Xbox 360s last generation along with my PS3...but this gen we have one console that wasn't designed with games as the priority, to me it's about supporting the console that does.

Oh I own a WiiU and PS4 and that's all I want from this gen for awhile at least (maybe get a One in the far future but just not that into their first exclusives and don't want to pay for 2 online subs), but I've seen time and time again when 360 made up a lot of ground during the holidays even in years where it seemed to really not have a WHOLE lot of incentive.  Americans like their Xbox even though PS4 is in the lead Sony will have to continue to not just match MS, but exceed their offering if they want to keep that US lead.




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