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Do you think Sony needs more studios?

Yes, they definitely need more studios 131 28.73%
 
No, they have plenty of studios 225 49.34%
 
Neither because their stu... 98 21.49%
 
Total:454

Like aforementioned before Sony released a lot of games for the PS3 that could of been PS4 games last year. TLoU, GT6, Puppeteer, GoW: Ascension, Beyond 2 Souls, etc. Things are popping off in 2015+ for PS fans.



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sales2099 said:
think-man said:
sales2099 said:
I remember in 2012 for example PS3 cranked out exclusive after exclusive. Sorcery, Wonderbook, Starhawk, LBP Karting, PS All Stars, Twisted Metal, Tokyo Jungle, R&C: Full Frontal Assault, Killzone HD, R&C Collection, Jak & Daxter Collection,

Most if not all were sales flops. All outsold by Halo 4 alone. GREAT for forum nuts bragging online, but terrible for PS financials. Too much is overkill and they tend to cannibalize each other in the end.

Frankly Sony is smart to take it easy this time around. But fortunately, PS4 can stay #1 on 3rd party multiplats alone.

You want to brag about that lmao. KIllzone HD was never released physically only as a pack that the chartz didn't even track. Tokyo Jungle is of indie game status, R&C:FFA was a spin off, 2 collections of old games, 4 new IPs, two of which were "move" only which was already dead by the time they released.

I could have told you Halo would have outsold those back in 2012, and here we are 2 years later and you're still talking about it. This is probably the 5th time i've seen you talk about it.

Move on you're living in the past brother.

Ill move on when PS fans stop bringing up 2011-2013 when they are going strong this year.


Sounds rather petty and childish to me.



Sleepyprince said:
HEMSTAR said:
I hope we see Qauntic Dream, Media Molecule, Guerrilla Games and Sony London announce their new games at Gamescom. Probably ain't gonna happen though :D


No thanks, the world is a better place without their aweful games.

About the op, too many exclusive in the 

Competition is harsh these days. AAA games are expensive too consumers who are being used to buy cheap indies titles or games on PSN and STEAM sales. The risk of flop is more painful than before with the raising dev costs. In my opinion 3 AAA first party exclusive per year is the right number.  


Well im a massive fan of Heavy Rain and so are alot of other people and Beyond was treated way too harshly, not the best game but better than the critics made it out to be.



They got lots of studios. And you missed Resogun. Oops. They are focusing more on quality this gen and as a result fewer games. It would perhaps be a problem if there wasn't so much third party support. Also, last gen Sony overproduced on games and couldn't make back what they spent on them. Times change.



"These are the highest quality pixels that anybody has seen"

Its because they just unloaded almost all thier 1st party studios in an all out assault in 2013.

-GoW Assencion  (Santa Monica)

-The Last of Us  (Naughty Gods)

-Tearaway  (Media Molicule)

-Killzone Mercenary  (Gurila Cambridge)

-Killzone Shadowfall (Gurila Games)

-The Pupatear (Studio Japan)

-Knack  (Studio Japan)

-Beyond Two Souls  (Quantic Dream 2nd party)

-Rachet & clank into the nexus  (Insomniac 2rd party)

-Grand Turismo 6  (Polyphony)

So right now most of thier studios are busy working on thier next games, but these games take time to make.  Most games run on 2-3 year development cycles, and some even take four years like in Naughty Dog's case.  So you just need to be patient for now.  2015 will be a good year, and 2016 will be even better.



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enditall727 said:


But you still wouldn't buy it specifically for a free to play game though. Aint nobody buying a console to play a free to play game. At this point in time, anybody who bought a PS4 without a game had to have the most boring experience with the PS4. The only way that probably happens is if the person doesn't have enough money to get a game with it or they just arent interested in the games that were out at the time of their purchase(basically being forced to have to settle for free to play games).


But who buys a console for one specific game anyway?  Without meaning to start a console war, I feel like only Nintendo fans flock to buy a console for one game.  Whereas I feel Sony fans buy consoles for a combination of games coming together.  For example, I bought my Vita once Gravity Rush/LittleBigPlanet/WipEout 2048 were all out.  I bought my PS3 when LittleBigPlanet/WipEout HD Fury/Metal Gear Solid 4 were all out.

So no, Planetside 2 might not be my sole reason for being a PS4.  But it would certainly be a factor in my decision.  And again, you're saying "you wouldn't buy a PS4 for a free to play game" like somehow having SOE offer an incredibly mediocre retail title would be somehow more of a factor?  It wouldn't.  Not at all.



Kresnik said:
enditall727 said:


But you still wouldn't buy it specifically for a free to play game though. Aint nobody buying a console to play a free to play game. At this point in time, anybody who bought a PS4 without a game had to have the most boring experience with the PS4. The only way that probably happens is if the person doesn't have enough money to get a game with it or they just arent interested in the games that were out at the time of their purchase(basically being forced to have to settle for free to play games).


But who buys a console for one specific game anyway?  Without meaning to start a console war, I feel like only Nintendo fans flock to buy a console for one game.  Whereas I feel Sony fans buy consoles for a combination of games coming together.  For example, I bought my Vita once Gravity Rush/LittleBigPlanet/WipEout 2048 were all out.  I bought my PS3 when LittleBigPlanet/WipEout HD Fury/Metal Gear Solid 4 were all out.

So no, Planetside 2 might not be my sole reason for being a PS4.  But it would certainly be a factor in my decision.  And again, you're saying "you wouldn't buy a PS4 for a free to play game" like somehow having SOE offer an incredibly mediocre retail title would be somehow more of a factor?  It wouldn't.  Not at all.

This is also my issue with this thread. So a f2p or downloadable title that is awesome means nothing. But a mediocre "big" retail game that might suck is okay because it is retail? PS4 has a nice varity of games to play right now. With LOTS coming next yer from the looks of it. They were VERY smart this time around if you ask me. They made some good exclusive content with 3rd parties. Dropped some nice exclusives but not too many because 3rd party support would fill the wholes.

It is annoying that we have not even hit a full 1yr with the PS4 and already the games complaint is out. I could undertand if this was teh fall of next year and this was the case but it's not. People are just jumping the gun and to even compare the PS4 to the PS2 is crazy seeing as at that time NOTHING was touching the PS2, Games cost WAY less then, Sony was in MUCH better shape finacially and was just in stride. With the PS3 they were even in better shape because they had all the profit from the PS2 to work with. They don't have all of those luxuries with the PS4 so they have to play it smarter and that's what they are doing.

Sony has an EXCELLENT track record for bringing something fo reveryone to their consoles. So for me with not evein being a year in I say just wait and make this argument next year.



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Kresnik said:
enditall727 said:


But you still wouldn't buy it specifically for a free to play game though. Aint nobody buying a console to play a free to play game. At this point in time, anybody who bought a PS4 without a game had to have the most boring experience with the PS4. The only way that probably happens is if the person doesn't have enough money to get a game with it or they just arent interested in the games that were out at the time of their purchase(basically being forced to have to settle for free to play games).


But who buys a console for one specific game anyway?  Without meaning to start a console war, I feel like only Nintendo fans flock to buy a console for one game.  Whereas I feel Sony fans buy consoles for a combination of games coming together.  For example, I bought my Vita once Gravity Rush/LittleBigPlanet/WipEout 2048 were all out.  I bought my PS3 when LittleBigPlanet/WipEout HD Fury/Metal Gear Solid 4 were all out.

So no, Planetside 2 might not be my sole reason for being a PS4.  But it would certainly be a factor in my decision.  And again, you're saying "you wouldn't buy a PS4 for a free to play game" like somehow having SOE offer an incredibly mediocre retail title would be somehow more of a factor?  It wouldn't.  Not at all.

I know where you're going with that and i see what you mean but i personally know of people who buy PlayStations SPECIFICALLY for Gran  only. They literally dont even get any other games.. Just Gran Turismo. There were even schools who buy PlayStations SPECIFICALLY for Gran Turismo. I know people who also buy Playstations for Final Fantasy.

 

I had a friend/associate who had and played nothing but Xbox 360 with his older brother and Dad. He had Halo 3, Lost Planet, COD and some other game. So me and a couple friends went to his house and we seen that he had bought a PS3 and he had the new God Of War 3( it was like 2 weeks after GOW3 came out). He had bought a PS3 SPECIFICALLY for God of war 3. He never really bought any other games from what i remember. He had told me a few weeks later that he was looking at this game called inFamous and that he was probably going to get it but i never went back to his house to see if he had ever got it.

 

I know LOADS of people who buy consoles just for Grand Theft Auto. They usually end up only getting like 2 more games down the line(like Madden and maybe a COD)

 

I know TOO many people who buy systems for 1 game but eventually pick up more later on.

 

I'm more of the type to wait for multiple games to be in the library before diving in, like you pretty much said. The only game i might force me to get a sytsem early is maybe Final Fantasy( if it looked good like FF7, 8, 9 or even 10).

 

But i'll probably NEVER IN LIFE run into an individual who bought a system for a free to play game.

 

Also, i'm not saying that PlanetSide 2 is bad or anything. It's just rendered irrelevant due to being free to play. 

 



enditall727 said:

I know where you're going with that and i see what you mean but i personally know of people who buy PlayStations SPECIFICALLY for Gran  only. They literally dont even get any other games.. Just Gran Turismo. There were even schools who buy PlayStations SPECIFICALLY for Gran Turismo. I know people who also buy Playstations for Final Fantasy.

 

I had a friend/associate who had and played nothing but Xbox 360 with his older brother and Dad. He had Halo 3, Lost Planet, COD and some other game. So me and a couple friends went to his house and we seen that he had bought a PS3 and he had the new God Of War 3( it was like 2 weeks after GOW3 came out). He had bought a PS3 SPECIFICALLY for God of war 3. He never really bought any other games from what i remember. He had told me a few weeks later that he was looking at this game called inFamous and that he was probably going to get it but i never went back to his house to see if he had ever got it.

 

I know LOADS of people who buy consoles just for Grand Theft Auto. They usually end up only getting like 2 more games down the line(like Madden and maybe a COD)

 

I know TOO many people who buy systems for 1 game but eventually pick up more later on.

 

I'm more of the type to wait for multiple games to be in the library before diving in, like you pretty much said. The only game i might force me to get a sytsem early is maybe Final Fantasy( if it looked good like FF7, 8, 9 or even 10).

 

But i'll probably NEVER IN LIFE run into an individual who bought a system for a free to play game.

 

Also, i'm not saying that PlanetSide 2 is bad or anything. It's just rendered irrelevant due to being free to play. 

 


dude.. just to comment, but I see you nitpicking f2p as the reason people wouldn't buy a system.  that's fine and all, most wouldn't buy a new console for a free to play game.. buy the system for whatever game you want, whether it's for one game or multiple games.. but the great thing about f2p games is just what it is.. free to play games. you can add a f2p game and it wouldn't hurt your intentions of buying the system in the first place because of another game.  it's another title free for you and whether its your thing or not, is up to your tastes.  seriously.. we know there will be those retail/downloadable titles that will always be the reason why people buy a system.. but to think a f2p game will hurt the outlook of a console especially when it's free?  it's almost like the complaint is.. "omg.. a f2p game.. is that all the ps4 has?".. no it isn't.. it just complements whatever else will be coming to the system.  buying the ps4 for infamous, uncharted4, the last of us, destiny, etc?  awesome!  well.. you can also download ps2, hzn1, war thunder, warframe, etc.. and guess what?  it didn't cost you a dime.. and know what else? you might actually enjoy them.  it's not like the ps4 is centerd on f2p only now.. it just also gives you those optional titles that you can enjoy along with the games you do buy.  so what is the complaint actually?

it's almost like the mobile market with ios and android.  its as if downloading a free game as opposed to buying a game is a bad thing.. yet especially in the mobile market, a majority of of the "free" games are the most downloaded and also end up generating the most revenue..



Man.. I hate it when your girl has to leave my place to come back to you..

I am not sure that Sony is financially in any position to open new studios, whether they need them or not.