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I think most people would rather prefer to have the entire plethora of 3rd party offering in the one system they buy rather than an odd 3rd party exclusive here and there.

That being said it's not like the other console manufacturers aren't striking up deals for 3rd party exclusives. MS got Tifanfall/Scalebound and Sony has Bloodborne/No man's sky in the pipeline. Nintendo isn't the only one with this "blessing" and Sony/MS didn't need a lack of 3rd party support to get this "blessing".



 

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There's a positive to every negative and seeing that positive is important in life.

That being said, lack of 3rd party support is negative - period.



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Nah, if they could release like two big games a month, then I might agree with you. We had SM3DW in november, DKC: TF in february, MK8 in may and the next is Hyrule Warriors in september. Sure Nintendo works harder now, but these droughts are crazy...



"Less games is better"

Great logic right there. Good third party support is always better.



Gawh I really wish there was a multiquote system in place, lol...

Having said that, I can tell a few people skimmed the article, or went solely by the title of the article (go figure, right?), but to respond to a few particular statements...

Aerys said:

Why not both ? PS3 is the best example that shows you CAN have à unique library + 3rd party multiplatforms

Ans ps4 Will probably be the same example, unique library from Sony + japan ans multiplatforms games

That shows not getting 3rd party doesnt mâke à console better

The PS3 is actually a pretty bad example, since you're looking at the whole library of an 8 year old system using that as a reference point.  The PS3 started out really badly, with a poor library and a really high cost.  What will the Wii U's library look like after its lifespan is up?

No one said not getting 3rd party games would make the console better, what I'm saying is that the lack of 3rd party games does not immediately mean "doom".

spemanig said:

This hurts my brain...

The XBO. It has 3rd party exclusives. I has 3rd party multi plats. Lack of 3rd party can absolutely never be a good thing. Having less games is NEVER a good thing. That doesn't make Nintendo unique; it makes them flaccid. That's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.

If you want to talk about one of the stupidest things we've ever heard, it's that quantitiy is immediately better than quality.  Your statement clearly says you prefer more games than less, with no mention or measure of reference to quality.  I think therein lies the biggest problem with today's gamers. They'd rather have 5 mediocre games than 1 perfect game. If you want to push the limits in favor against the Wii U, let's say 5 titles in the 80/100 score range, and 1 game in the 90/100 score range. I'd prefer the one "great" game than five "good" ones, ESPECIALLY considering the point of the article: the one "great" game is only on ONE system. When I can get those five "good" games on PC, XBox1, PS4, XBox360, or PS3, it makes no compelling statement for any ONE of those systems. Catch my drift?

KLXVER said:

Nah, if they could release like two big games a month, then I might agree with you. We had SM3DW in november, DKC: TF in february, MK8 in may and the next is Hyrule Warriors in september. Sure Nintendo works harder now, but these droughts are crazy...

TWO BIG games a month?!  Even the PS4 and XBox1 aren't pulling that off, you're crazy, lol



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Financing exclusives like TW101, Bayonetta 2 and Devil's Third probably won't be profitable. They can only hope that the ones who buy the system mainly for games like Bayonetta 2 will also buy some Nintendo games.

Yes, paying for multiplats makes no sense, but I doubt that third parties were asking for money to release multiplats on Wii U.

What about kickstarters for Wii U ports (lol)?



I always thought that the difference between having and not having 3rd party support is sorta like pushing a log by yourself or with others. If you do it by yourself than you will move slower but will become stronger in the process and easily more independent.
Do it with others and you can move further with less effort but you become more dependent on them.

I like how Nintendo was able to push the log all by themselves during the wii years. It shows they can do it but just need a better strategy. Honestly I prefer an independent console maker than one dependent on 3rd parties but this is from a sales point of view and sorta a games view



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Ye its super positive, it only lost Nintendo 90% of the marktshare...

 

Nintendo first partie support would exist either way its not a blessing every system needs 3rd partie to suceed. The Super NES was the console it was because it had both top quality 1st and 3rd party support the same could be said about the PS2 and other great consoles. 



Third parties account for more than 60-70% of installed base. Without them and you're relying only on first and second party your following will dry up extremely quickly.

Seriously, Nintendo fans need to stop excusing the situation and just enjoy Nintendo games. Its all Nintendo's fault that they are in this position and their fanbase has to go elsewhere for third party.



ZyroXZ2 said:

Gawh I really wish there was a multiquote system in place, lol...

Having said that, I can tell a few people skimmed the article, or went solely by the title of the article (go figure, right?), but to respond to a few particular statements...

Aerys said:

Why not both ? PS3 is the best example that shows you CAN have à unique library + 3rd party multiplatforms

Ans ps4 Will probably be the same example, unique library from Sony + japan ans multiplatforms games

That shows not getting 3rd party doesnt mâke à console better

The PS3 is actually a pretty bad example, since you're looking at the whole library of an 8 year old system using that as a reference point.  The PS3 started out really badly, with a poor library and a really high cost.  What will the Wii U's library look like after its lifespan is up?

No one said not getting 3rd party games would make the console better, what I'm saying is that the lack of 3rd party games does not immediately mean "doom".

spemanig said:

This hurts my brain...

The XBO. It has 3rd party exclusives. I has 3rd party multi plats. Lack of 3rd party can absolutely never be a good thing. Having less games is NEVER a good thing. That doesn't make Nintendo unique; it makes them flaccid. That's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.

If you want to talk about one of the stupidest things we've ever heard, it's that quantitiy is immediately better than quality.  Your statement clearly says you prefer more games than less, with no mention or measure of reference to quality.  I think therein lies the biggest problem with today's gamers. They'd rather have 5 mediocre games than 1 perfect game. If you want to push the limits in favor against the Wii U, let's say 5 titles in the 80/100 score range, and 1 game in the 90/100 score range. I'd prefer the one "great" game than five "good" ones, ESPECIALLY considering the point of the article: the one "great" game is only on ONE system. When I can get those five "good" games on PC, XBox1, PS4, XBox360, or PS3, it makes no compelling statement for any ONE of those systems. Catch my drift?

KLXVER said:

Nah, if they could release like two big games a month, then I might agree with you. We had SM3DW in november, DKC: TF in february, MK8 in may and the next is Hyrule Warriors in september. Sure Nintendo works harder now, but these droughts are crazy...

TWO BIG games a month?!  Even the PS4 and XBox1 aren't pulling that off, you're crazy, lol


According to your logic, Wii U Library could also never be as good as  PS3 library , Nintendo could announce and release their new console in 2 years, we just dont know, so it's too early to make this thread and say it's a good or a bad thing, we'll see that at the end.


I would agree with your theory if there was a previous similar case in the history of consoles



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