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Forums - Gaming Discussion - You think AGAIN that XBOX ONE passed Wii U this year? If yes, why?

RubberWhistleHistle on 24 June 2014
FatedReality said:
It depends if Smash actually comes out this year for the Wii U. Xbox One can defiantly catch up this holiday with a Halo bundle this holiday and maybe a $50 price cut if sales don't pick up (another price cut is very unlikely). I have a feeling that because Smash was pushed back on the 3Ds that the same will happen for the Wii U version. This would really hurt Nintendo sense this is there big holiday game.


Cirie was awesome. Totally got robbed in fvf. Terry should have won her original season though. 



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gergroy on 24 June 2014
RubberWhistleHistle said:
gergroy said:

It can, but it probably won't with smash coming out, unless microsoft has some big guns they haven't revealed yet or are planning MASSIVE price reductions (which they won't do).  Holiday sales are ridiculously lopsided compared to the rest of the year.  over half of all consoles sold during the year are sold during the last three months...

.. No. You can wish as hard as you like, but there is nothing Microsoft could possibly come out with that is going to outsell wii u by 2mil in that time frame. It's just impossible.

really?  nothing?  what if they dropped the price of the xbox one to $50?  still impossible? Obviously there are things that Microsoft could do to outsell the wii u in the time frame (not saying they are going to).

I don't really care if Microsoft outsells the wii u at all, so I'll save my wishes for more important things!  Still, the last three months of the year can have crazy sales numbers.  Saying it is impossible is just ignoring the position that the wii u is in.  The xbox one isn't much better, but it has third party support that can help boost it a little, especially when the heavy hitters start hitting during the holidays.  

Obviously, I'm not saying it is going to close the gap, as you can see if you read my post.  I'm saying it is within the realm of possibility is all...



Seece on 24 June 2014
drake_tolu said:
Dark_Feanor said:
It will pass this Octuber, or second week of november at latest.

Also, VGChartz are all over the place.

On 30 Augost the gap will be 2,000,000.

So, you think that XBOX ONE sell more of 2,000,000 only in 2 month?

Why are you forcing your opinion onto his? Maybe he doesn't believe it'll be 2m by end of August (hint, it won't.)

You've seen the downward trajectory for WiiU right? (and the downward adjustments) Those lofty heights of 187k never existed (likely did 100k) and if US, Japan and the info we have on Europe are anything to go by WiiU will be below 40k a week very soon.

Japan is already slipping to near 10k a week again. US was 60k for the entire May (with MK launch).



 

Seece on 24 June 2014
RubberWhistleHistle said:
Ninsect said:

Destiny, Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed. Basically, 3rd party. That's stuff that WiiU doesn't have.

The problem is that xbox1 isn't going to benefit from those releases. 

Of course it is. Right now we're seeing 60/40% ratios in US/UK. Which means whilst PS4 is getting the most benfit, XB1 is still gaining as well. What do you think is selling consoles?



 

RubberWhistleHistle on 24 June 2014
Seece said:
Ninten78 said:
novasonic said:
If it ever catches WiiU, it will be years down the road.

Wii U has 2nd place locked I think.I know it will outsell GCN like we said but I have a sense it could do N64

Are you serious? I swear some people are not looking at the full picture. WiiU has received A boost but they're not actually looking at what the boost was. It was poor and it didn't even put sales on par with Gamecube. So if the launch of a huge blockbuster fails to put WiiU sales on par with Gamecube, why do you expect it to outsell it, and what do you think sales are going to be like down the line?

Doesn't make any sense, we've seen no evidence WiiU is actually making a comeback. Go look at any piece of sales evidence as proof.

Xbone hasn't sold to GC  levels but I haven't seen one thread about xbone not passing GC. Maybe you're missing part of the big picture here.. At this point, I think the GC was at about 99 dollars. What makes you think that with all this room the wii u has to drop the price that it won't pass GC levels?



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yvanjean on 24 June 2014
drake_tolu said:

The gap between XBOX ONE and Wii U is 1,750,000.

And after last week, probabily increase for the start of  summer, i predict Wii U above XBOX ONE of 2,000,000 in 30 Augost.

Can XBOX ONE sell 2,000,000 more of Wii U from September to December?


Xbox One has already pass the WiiU in North America.... Microsoft should double their effort in this market. They should push to outsell PS4 in NA. If they can outsell PS4 and WiiU in NA and maintain a presence in the world market they can still win this generation. The Lack of AAA title over this holiday season for PS4 is Xbox One chance to take NA market away from them. The Kinect-less bundle is a move is the right direction, this coming from someone who own a titanfall Xbox One bundle.



RubberWhistleHistle on 24 June 2014
Seece said:
RubberWhistleHistle said:
gergroy said:
drake_tolu said:

The gap between XBOX ONE and Wii U is 1,750,000.

And after last week, probabily increase for the start of  summer, i predict Wii U above XBOX ONE of 2,000,000 in 30 Augost.

Can XBOX ONE sell 2,000,000 more of Wii U from September to December?


It can, but it probably won't with smash coming out, unless microsoft has some big guns they haven't revealed yet or are planning MASSIVE price reductions (which they won't do).  Holiday sales are ridiculously lopsided compared to the rest of the year.  over half of all consoles sold during the year are sold during the last three months...

.. No. You can wish as hard as you like, but there is nothing Microsoft could possibly come out with that is going to outsell wii u by 2mil in that time frame. It's just impossible.

2m? Shipments are around 1m, and they will be on par (maybe even drop more) Q ending June. September ending Q will be huge for MS, it's always bigger for consoles and MS have exclusive and big multiplat games as well as the launch in dozens of other countries.

XB1 will have outshipped WiiU by end of September Q, and sell through will follow shortly after.

Do you feel good enoug about all that to be sig control for a month?



Dark_Feanor on 24 June 2014
drake_tolu said:
Dark_Feanor said:
It will pass this Octuber, or second week of november at latest.

Also, VGChartz are all over the place.

On 30 Augost the gap will be 2,000,000.

So, you think that XBOX ONE sell more of 2,000,000 only in 2 month?


What the H*** are you talking about the gap being 2.000.000 on August 30th?

First and foremost, we don´t know the gap. VGchartz shows it at 1.75mi but I have my doubts.



Seece on 24 June 2014
RubberWhistleHistle said:
Seece said:

Are you serious? I swear some people are not looking at the full picture. WiiU has received A boost but they're not actually looking at what the boost was. It was poor and it didn't even put sales on par with Gamecube. So if the launch of a huge blockbuster fails to put WiiU sales on par with Gamecube, why do you expect it to outsell it, and what do you think sales are going to be like down the line?

Doesn't make any sense, we've seen no evidence WiiU is actually making a comeback. Go look at any piece of sales evidence as proof.

Xbone hasn't sold to GC  levels but I haven't seen one thread about xbone not passing GC. Maybe you're missing part of the big picture here.. At this point, I think the GC was at about 99 dollars. What makes you think that with all this room the wii u has to drop the price that it won't pass GC levels?

Because it doesn't have the audience to sell to and it's trending drastically below. Couple that with Nintendo systems not selling for long periods of time (it'll be below 10m when it reachs the middle of its life)



 

drake_tolu on 24 June 2014
Dark_Feanor said:
drake_tolu said:
Dark_Feanor said:
It will pass this Octuber, or second week of november at latest.

Also, VGChartz are all over the place.

On 30 Augost the gap will be 2,000,000.

So, you think that XBOX ONE sell more of 2,000,000 only in 2 month?


What the H*** are you talking about the gap being 2.000.000 on August 30th?

First and foremost, we don´t know the gap. VGchartz shows it at 1.75mi but I have my doubts.

Infact: 1,750,000 now, and is 14 June, Wii U will sell more of XBOX ONE thanks bundle with Wii Sport Club and Hyrule Warriors, so, minimum the gap will be 1.85-1.9 milion, for me more.