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deskpro2k3 said:
MDMAlliance said:
 


#1 The changes aren't all about making it more "accessible."  In fact, I already listed changes that go against that idea.  They LITERALLY change how you play and are NEW features.  What you're saying about them doing the "same thing" is them staying in the genre they started in.  Your criticism literally makes no sense.  
Also, for 2D platformers, having different platforming IS what makes the game.  Do you even have ANY clue as to why the original New Super Mario Bros did so well?   It's because they used some of their old formulas for platforming and made it more modern and changed up the level designs.  People wanted that.  

And you seem to be unaware of the fact that Mario isn't Nintendo's only platforming game.  But I bet you'll just write it off anyway.


My criticism is that they're making to many of the same which devalues their franchise, and it gets boring to me because I will still use my favorite pokemon over the others. I guess you missed the part where I mentioned Wonderful 101, a better game than Mario imo.


But they aren't making the same game over and over. Maybe if you play the games you will see. Super Mario 64 feels different than Super Mario Sunshine, and Super Mario Sunshine feels much different than Super Mario Galaxy. 



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TheLegendaryWolf said:

deskpro2k3 said:

It does not matter how many new pokemons they add or how accessible they make it, or how different the platforming is in Mario. At the end of the day you're still doing the samething that gets boring to me.

I wont mind if they make a new platforming game. Ex Wonderful 101. and just let Mario go.


Ever heard of Kirby and Yoshi? Platformer games that aren't Mario.

Let go of Mario? That's like asking Activision to stop with CoD, Microsoft to stop Halo, and Square Enix with Final Fantasy.


Played them. Those are good games and they need more exposure than Mario in my opinion.

I'm already tired of CoD etc. Final Fantasy is different. The progression is different. Characters etc is always different in Final Fantasy.



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deskpro2k3 said:
MDMAlliance said:
 


#1 The changes aren't all about making it more "accessible."  In fact, I already listed changes that go against that idea.  They LITERALLY change how you play and are NEW features.  What you're saying about them doing the "same thing" is them staying in the genre they started in.  Your criticism literally makes no sense.  
Also, for 2D platformers, having different platforming IS what makes the game.  Do you even have ANY clue as to why the original New Super Mario Bros did so well?   It's because they used some of their old formulas for platforming and made it more modern and changed up the level designs.  People wanted that.  

And you seem to be unaware of the fact that Mario isn't Nintendo's only platforming game.  But I bet you'll just write it off anyway.


My criticism is that they're making to many of the same which devalues their franchise, and it gets boring to me because I will still use my favorite pokemon over the others. I guess you missed the part where I mentioned Wonderful 101, a better game than Mario imo.


First of all, they aren't the SAME game.  Secondly, too many?  I think you overestimate how many of these games they actually release.  Oh, and also that's your own fault for not wanting to use new Pokemon just because you don't want to try anything new (huh, weird right?).  


And no, I didn't miss the part where you mentioned Wonderful 101, a game that isn't even a platformer.



deskpro2k3 said:
TheLegendaryWolf said:

deskpro2k3 said:

It does not matter how many new pokemons they add or how accessible they make it, or how different the platforming is in Mario. At the end of the day you're still doing the samething that gets boring to me.

I wont mind if they make a new platforming game. Ex Wonderful 101. and just let Mario go.


Ever heard of Kirby and Yoshi? Platformer games that aren't Mario.

Let go of Mario? That's like asking Activision to stop with CoD, Microsoft to stop Halo, and Square Enix with Final Fantasy.


Played them. Those are good games and they need more exposure than Mario in my opinion.

I'm already tired of CoD etc. Final Fantasy is different. The progression is different. Characters etc is always different in Final Fantasy.


There are more main kirby games then there are main mario games. 



MDMAlliance said:
deskpro2k3 said:
MDMAlliance said:
 


#1 The changes aren't all about making it more "accessible."  In fact, I already listed changes that go against that idea.  They LITERALLY change how you play and are NEW features.  What you're saying about them doing the "same thing" is them staying in the genre they started in.  Your criticism literally makes no sense.  
Also, for 2D platformers, having different platforming IS what makes the game.  Do you even have ANY clue as to why the original New Super Mario Bros did so well?   It's because they used some of their old formulas for platforming and made it more modern and changed up the level designs.  People wanted that.  

And you seem to be unaware of the fact that Mario isn't Nintendo's only platforming game.  But I bet you'll just write it off anyway.


My criticism is that they're making to many of the same which devalues their franchise, and it gets boring to me because I will still use my favorite pokemon over the others. I guess you missed the part where I mentioned Wonderful 101, a better game than Mario imo.


First of all, they aren't the SAME game.  Secondly, too many?  I think you overestimate how many of these games they actually release.  Oh, and also that's your own fault for not wanting to use new Pokemon just because you don't want to try anything new (huh, weird right?).  


And no, I didn't miss the part where you mentioned Wonderful 101, a game that isn't even a platformer.

 

Why would I want to try other pokemon when I know which ones are stronger and better to use for my strategy?

Wonderful 101 is like an action platformer.



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deskpro2k3 said:

 

Why would I want to try other pokemon when I know which ones are stronger and better to use for my strategy?

Wonderful 101 is like an action platformer.

Its like when you are playing a game like Magic the Gathering and a new set comes out...there will be new things that may fit into your strategy, or a whole new strategy that may be closer to what you want to do. You just need to experiment and have fun with it to see what you enjoy the most. I can tell you now, whatever team you made up with the original 150 pokemon, I can make a much better team with all of the pokemon that will be able to do what you are trying to do much better.

Once again, it is hilarious that you are complaining that Nintendo doesn't do anything new, and then turning around and asking "why would I want to try something new?"...



sundin13 said:
deskpro2k3 said:
 

 

Why would I want to try other pokemon when I know which ones are stronger and better to use for my strategy?

Wonderful 101 is like an action platformer.

Its like when you are playing a game like Magic the Gathering and a new set comes out...there will be new things that may fit into your strategy, or a whole new strategy that may be closer to what you want to do. You just need to experiment and have fun with it to see what you enjoy the most. I can tell you now, whatever team you made up with the original 150 pokemon, I can make a much better team with all of the pokemon that will be able to do what you are trying to do much better.

Once again, it is hilarious that you are complaining that Nintendo doesn't do anything new, and then turning around and asking "why would I want to try something new?"...


I think you missed the point. I said in one post that I'm happy with the first 150.

Now where did I say anything about using the first 150 in my strategy?

I'll clearify. Why would I use other pokemon when I know which one is stronger and better to use? I'll just keep using the strongest. But this is besides the point.

There is nothing Nintendo can do to make me go out and buy more pokemons, mario, and zelda.



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Final Fantasy Dissidia
Final Fantasy Dissidia 012
Final Fantasy The 4 Heroes of Light
Final Fantasy Dimensions
Final Fantasy Airborne Brigade
Theatrhythm Final Fantasy
Final Fantasy All the Bravest
Theatrhythm Final Fantasy: Curtain Call
Final Fantasy Explorers
Final Fantasy XIII
Final Fantasy XIII-2
Lightning Returns - Final Fantasy XIII
Final Fantasy VII - Steam Edition
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Final Fantasy XIV
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Final Fantasy XV
Final Fantasy Tactics S
Final Fantasy Tactics: The War of the Lions (iOS...)
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I don't know why, but I see the OP having some outstanding double standards... ¬_¬



Hynad said:
Final Fantasy Dissidia
Final Fantasy Dissidia 012
Final Fantasy The 4 Heroes of Light
Final Fantasy Dimensions
Final Fantasy Airborne Brigade
Theatrhythm Final Fantasy
Final Fantasy All the Bravest
Theatrhythm Final Fantasy: Curtain Call
Final Fantasy Explorers
Final Fantasy XIII
Final Fantasy XIII-2
Lightning Returns - Final Fantasy XIII
Final Fantasy VII - Steam Edition
Final Fantasy VIII - Steam Edition
Final Fantasy XIV
Final Fantasy X Collection
Final Fantasy XV
Final Fantasy Tactics S
Final Fantasy Tactics: The War of the Lions (iOS...)
Final Fantasy Agito
Final Fantasy Type 0


I don't know why, but I see the OP having some outstanding double standards... ¬_¬


Annnnnnnnnnnnnd none of them is the same except for direct sequels or remakes. They share the same name yes. Try again.



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