It might lead Wii U by a few hundred thousand units at best. And that's an outside shot, at that. I think the Xbox One will still be in the hole at the end of the year.
zorg1000 said:
Xbox One already released in countries that make up nearly 90% of the Xbox 360 userbase, outside of the first couple weeks those new markets arent going to add up to much. Also if Vgchartz numbers from last week are correct then the price cut didnt do much at all either. You are right about One having more third party titles but so far we have seen the PS4 versions vastly outsell them, Watch Dogs is one of the biggest games of the year and once again didnt do much for Xbox One sales. Xbox One certainly has a shot at selling better than Wii U this year but its not a given by any means. |
Remember the Wii U just release one of their biggest franchise and it barley manages to outsell the xbox one on a weekly basis. Also, it is no secret Microsoft does very well during the holidays.
| eva01beserk said: so your logic is all of x1 exclusives are system seller while the only one for wiiu is ssb. That is not logic but a biased opinion. I actually see the wiius exclusives to sell more systems, one because they are vastly diferent than theres anything in the market witch is not only shooters acording to MS and second, everithing is going to get buried in the multyplats witch will not happen to wiiu. Second of all all thouse third party ips will do next to nothing for the x1, cuz all the attetintion will be on ps4. The x1 will not come close to the wii u this year nor the next. will have to see the 2016 line up to see if it has a chance. |
1.) I did not say all X1 exclusives are system sellers. Dance Central Spotlight, Fantasia Music Evolved, and Ori and the Blind Forest are examples of exclusive that are not system sellers.
2.) Lets look at the Wii U's other exclusives this year:
-Sonic Boom: Last years sonic game was a complete flop, see for yourself
http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/41567/Global/
Also, so far, this year's new Sonic game has gotten a some bad press with one site calling it "the worst sonic game ever".
-Bayonetta 2: The first Bayonetta was a great game, and it's sales were alright with it selling around 1.4M across the X360 & PS3. It has a good loyal hardcore fanbase, but never reached mainstream audiences as well as games like Mario Kart or SSB, both wich have sold millions and millions of units. (Mario Kart Wii sold like 30M copies just on the Wii).
-Hyrule Warriors: This is a cross of Dynasty Warriors with the Zelda universe. I think this will move a lot of Wii Us in Japan where Dynasty Warriors is a popular series, but in the US and Europe, this will not move that many consoles as the series is not that popular there.
-Captain Toad Treasure Tracker: This is a game based off of a mini game found in Super Mario 3D world. I see this game as a bit of a wild card. I think it has the potential to sell well if it is a good game, but am unsure of how many Wii Us it could sale as there isn't really an established franchise of Toad Adventure games. (By the way, I aplaud Nintendo for making this game, it is a bit of a risk, but looks like it might could turn out well).
-Super Smash Bros.: This is an established series, that has a history of moving a lot of units, so I think it will give the Wii U a good boost during the Holidays. I do wonder however if the boost will be held back because of the 3DS version wich is comming out almost 1-2 months prior to the Wii U verion.
3.) The Xbox One does not have just shooters as exclusives, your opinion is clearly slanted. Here is a list of X1's main Holiday exclusives
-Halo MCC (FPS)
-Sunset Overdrive (TPS)
-Forza Horizon (Raceing)
-Fantasia Music Evolved (Kinect Music Game)
-Dance Central (Kinect Dance game)
-Shape Up (Fitness)
-Project Spark (Creation Game)
-Ori & the Blind Forest (Platformer)
Only 2/8 of the games there are shooter games, so you can not argue that the X1 only has shooter games.
4.) So your logic is that the Wii U having virtually no 3rd party support will help them? And that the X1 having 3rd party support will hurt them?? That seems a bit backwards....
1st Party + 3rd Party is better than just 1st Party, and will only add to sales momentum, not take away from it. It also helps fill in time and genera gaps when there are no/few 1st party games comming out.
5.) The PS4 will not steal all of the Multiplatform attention because Xbox has exclusive marketing with a ton of multiplatform titles this holiday like Dragon Age Inquizition, Call of Duty, Assasin's Creed Unity, and Evolve.
Also, I think you overestamate the amount of people that care about the slight resolution differences between the X1 and PS4. A lot of people are still going to get the X1 solely because it gets the Cod DLC first, and the Resolution wars are slowly dying down with more and more games (Destiny, Alien Isolation, The Crew, ect) achieving resolution parity on X1 & PS4
sweetoothj said:
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Not sure what u mean by barely, here are the last 3 weeks of data (could very well be wrong)
Week ending May 31 (MK8 & Watch Dogs)
Wii U-133k, Xbox One-52k (Wii U ahead 81k)
Week ending June 7
Wii U-91k, Xbox One-37k (Wii U ahead 54k)
Week ending June 14 (Xbox One $100 price cut)
Wii U-68k, Xbox One-64k (Wii U ahead 4k)
In the last 3 weeks Wii U sold 292k vs Xbox One at 153k, thats nearly twice as much. In that time Wii U recieved Mario Kart which is one of its biggest franchise while Xbox One had Watch Dogs which is one of the biggest 3rd party games of the year and a $100 price reduction.
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CommonNinja said:
Im not saying they can compete in Japan, nowhere in my post did I say that. My point was that outside of japan the Wii U is being outsold by the X1 every month. Japan is the only reason why the Wii U is still ahead of the X1 sales wise, but it is not a big enough market to keep it ahead of the X1 for good. My point was, to everyone that is saying the X1 will never catch the Wii U in sales is that it already has in most teritories outside of Japan despite having a whole years disadvantage, and that is why I think it will pass the Wii U in total sales this year.
As far as the whole exclusives thing, I know that the Wii U obviously has more exclusive games this year than just MK8 & SSB, but the fact is that most of thoes other exclusives are not going to sell Wii Us. Games like Bayonetta 2 & Hyrule Wariours are not what you would call "Main Stream Games" they only appeal to hardcore players, and so they will not sell as many consoles as something like SSB or MK8 which are much more main stream games. I think that if the Wii U had next year's lineup this year, then X1 would not pass them, but as it is, they just don't have enough meaningfull exclusives to carry sales momentum throughtout the entire year. If you look at X1's line up, it does have enough meaningfull exclusives to help pickup sales in the fall. For example, Fora Horizon is a big raceing game that will interest a lot of the european crowd, and should do well enough in the US. Then they also have Sunset Overdrive which should really boost the American market as we really tend to like shooters. And then to top it off you have the Halo MCC which is something every OG Xbox owner will not be able to resist, and should help spike Holiday sales to counter SSB. Also, the fact that the new SSB is comming to 3DS (a month before Wii U version) will really limit it's potential as a huge unit mover for the Wii U. On top of that you have to consider that the X1 also has great 3rd party games to fall back on like Cod and Evolve which both have DLC first on Xbox, and FIFFA which has exclusive Xbox content. Not to mention DAI and Assasin's Creed Unity wich have marketing deals with Xbox that will further help to push more units.
Thats my logic in thinking the X1 will outsell Wii U by the end of they year. If you think it is wrong then so be it, but please don't complain about how "awefull" it is without proof or sound logic to back up why I am wrong. |
Proof mario kart 8 and super smash will and can outsell any multiplat or exclusive Xbox has to offer that includes Forza and halo sunset overdrive or any exclusive or multiplat....and can't match the super smash and Mario kart duo ..the proof is there mario kart wii(35,000,000 (one game) sold almost more than all 6 xbox 360 halos combined (39million )and I'm not even talking about super smash wii ,12,000,000 smh
I am not sure where these xb1 fan fantasy threads all come from... But let's break I down, I don't see how the xb1 could even catch up to the wiiu, not by the end of the year any way, maybe if the last month did not happen I would think I made much sense, but now I just see the xb1 as a failed version of the ps4, so you but that to get worse version of the multi platform titles.... Or the wiiu to get the Nintendo franchises, that are arguably the most relevant gaming franchises (look at the sales number s since Mario kart 8 was released... Console and game this is what ms wanted from titanfall and what some think a new hallo will bring to the xb1).
For some reason it just seem nothing will truly boost this machines sales number s beyond the normal holiday rush... I don't think it will be enough, not with what Nintendo has in store!
I think it's gonna pass the wiiU around the end of the year. So I'm guessing that it will be around a million tops.
| justiceiro said: I think will be advantage for xb1 unless wiiu suffer a pricecut september-octuber. But, till then, this thread is as fun to wacth as those others: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=148326&page=1 http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=179062&page=1 TAgged. |
Wow an almost 2 year old thread... where some people predicted Wii U would outsell the VIta within months, some at launch...?! One person said the Wii U should have 2 million in Japan by the end of 2013... wow... It's really sad when you think these people genuinely stood by their predictions and probably would have argued them with all kinds of flawed logic and reasoning... The Vita leads by what? 2 million? Probably will stay the same for the foreseeable future.. So maybe "Never" ended up being the answer to this thread.. I don't think anyone said that..
9M for Wii U, if Nintendo forecast is right.
and id say 8-9M for Xbox One if MS have a really good Christmas period.
So very close.
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