- Alot of X1 greatest failures is it did things maybe even did them well, but it was is things No one actualy asked for from a gaming console.

- It will struggle mightly to even achice half the sales 360 did.

Its current market failing is due to the simple fact is its figthing for sales on PS4 terms and rules and it simply is inferior at it and has no chance there.  Right now its being sold as something its was not originaly designed to do.  The costant flip flops as anwsers to failing sales in light of the onslought at the hands of the PS4 has not worked and all its done is confuse consumers while maintaining their string of bad pr and has send a message that it a struggling product.  X1 was not designed as a core console a pure gaming machice, but do to its failures that is now the battle ground where its competitions message has been clear.  PS4 is a gaming console first and fore most, sales shown people have welcomed that with open wallets.  

misfired as

Always online initial X1 vision- major failure market out right says no PS4 preorder skyrocket over X1.
Multipourpose entertaiment box - once more failure PS4 leads sales.
Waggle Kinetix tv whatever the hell - PS4 leads
Titanfall 450 bundle msg changing - PS4 still leads even in Murica
Secret souce cloud - now just dedicated servers
D12 mega power boost, Philly S "not a major change"
399 Kless Sku, E3 core gmaing console

Could be more "what the x1 is does msges that failed" MS was kinda all over the place with this.

I fully expect the 399 sku and new supposed focus on games to fail again in terms of out selling the PS4, while it sounds good there have come to many flip flops and pr failures to really buy into it.  And history shows whatever they do PS4 still leads, as that happens MS flips flops to another msg and strategy... hell if i know whats next.

Also none should expect price parity to be enough to match PS4 sales.  Its still an inferior product in most ways, to match PS4 sales it would have to be much cheaper then it.  Ala 360/PS3 price, parity is NO where near enough to brawl it out with the PS4.  While it may bump sales near PS4 or maybe a miracle and even higher then it in June.  It will be short lived and will quickly drop to its regular levales though a bit higher then previous.

Biggest failure on X1 part is it lost the walmart crowd from last gen, this is where the price hurt the most.  Hard to show it as we get no sale numbers but the largest retailer that has most custumers many the lower classes is where price matters most.  360s sub PS3 price was a mega win here and a big reason i think 360 did so well in US in comparison to the PS3.  Maybe others can add to this, but from what iv seem shoppin there.  I think thats where the 360 did majority of its sales ass kicking.  

Last gen

.............................NA........Euro....Japan.....rest......total
PlayStation 3 (PS3) 28.49    32.98    10.00    11.36 - 82.83
Xbox 360 (X360)        46.58    25.23      1.66       7.87 - 81.34

I predict X1 market share of 30% of NA 20%  Europe and rest 10%.  Going of last gen that would be NA 22.5 , Eurrr 11.6, rest 2 and irrelevence in Japan.   And we get 36 which works out to sub half of what 360 did.  PS4 gets 124m of the market.  

Which leaves X1 at 22.5% PS4/xone market share.  Now it may seem to low and unlikly but reality is.

PS4 has taken 71% of the PS4/xone market for 2014.   

I think it will do better than the 360 :P

Not a chance in hell. I don't see the XB1 selling more than 40M worldwide, 50M at best.

I don't know, I think microsoft can still pull it out (no pun here folks!). It's still pretty early, perceptions can shift. Especially if they are still shooting for a 10 year life cycle.

Biggest problem the xbox one had/has was their leadership team. Mattrick was a joke, he deserves to be at zynga, not head of xbox. He was nothing but a train wreck as the head of xbox and his leadership during a console transition can be considered nothing less than a nightmare.

However, Microsoft has done a lot to rectify the issues Mattrick left them. In time, with some big hitters like Halo, they can at least pull even in NA and UK. Europe may be a lost cause. However, they could still make some gains in emerging markets like China, South America, etc. It's not a completely lost cause for Microsoft, I still think they can get close to what the 360 sold, 70 million or so...

About a year and a half ago, I said that the 360 will be a one-hit wonder and that the new Xbox would not do well. Some laughed at the notion and said that it will never happen. Fast forward to now, my prediction has a much greater likelihood of coming true than at the time I made that statement.

"but it was is things No one actualy asked for from a gaming console."

No, many of it's planned features were things people asked for... Most people weren't ready for what that entailed, however. "Cloud gaming? yes please. Oh wait, in order for a machine built for cloud based gaming? I have to always be online??? WTF???"

"It will struggle mightly to even achice half the sales 360 did."

It's on better pace than the PS3 was. Did it struggle in the long run? It's doing fine, just not as fine as the PS4.

Xbox's initial misteps were, granted - mismarketting. All of it's awesome features were easily painted as restrictions by the competition. And changing it's focus greatly limited some potential. (i.e. A system always connected can offload to the cloud any time, and can have games that function requiring the cloud. A non connected console can't) Ultimately, they swung for the fences, while Sony doubled down on consumer ignorance. And if there's one thing history teaches us, that's the safest bet.

So BOLD! We dont even kno if ps4 will do it yet, But its not like its impossible, just very unlikely. X1 a of now looks like it can do 40mil-60mil lifetime. Of course we'll get a better glimpse of it after halo hits!

Who's Philly S?

With regards to the 360, the one thing many people discount is that one year lead. That had a profound impact on last gen. Microsoft killing the original Xbox early was well worth it. Even then, people forget that the PS3 was the better selling console during most of its lifetime. It had a much higher sales rate. THAT is why I always questioned the general consensus that the "Xbox 720" would win this gen hands-down and why I always responded with the fact that Playstation is a bigger brand than Xbox.

Now, as far as the Xbox One, it will be interesting to see how well Microsoft rebounds. Honestly, they've done quite well so far, though that does make me wonder how they could have screwed up so badly in the first place.

If the XO never fully recovers, though, then I think we'd have to judge this as one of the worst console launches in history. That would make it worse than the PS3 by default, which did ultimately recover pretty well. It might even challenge for the top spot, depending on how you view the Wii U.

Yep, up to a 3% chance from 1%.

Absolutely nothing other than pulled-from-their-rear numbers supports this prediction. It's ahead of the start the PS3 had, and by a company that isn't deep in the red, year over year. The X1 is selling well behind the PS4, but it's still sold very well, thus far. Once it's flagship titles start releasing, there's no reason to think it won't recover.

But I'm glad people are making these predictions immediately before any sales data from the price drop. That way we can potentially see these "doom" threads crash and burn almost immediately.