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thismeintiel on 17 June 2014
Welfare said:
LTD
DKC: Tropical Freeze [WiU] 258k
Lightening Returns FF [PS3] 135k [360] 71k
PVZ: Garden Warfare [XB1] 257k [360] 150k
FF10HD [PS3] 259k
South Park SoT [360] 279k [PS3] 228k
Titanfall [XB1] 969k [360] 559k
Dark Souls 2 [360] 212k [PS3] 209k
Infamous SS [PS4] 617k
MGSV: Ground Zeroes [Total] 357k [PS4] >179k

I think it's pretty obvious why we haven't gotten any numbers about Titanfall One, looking at those numbers.  1M is nothing to scoff at, but it is definitely below what it should have sold, considering the game was hyped to high heaven (GOTY/GOTG) and touted as the savior of the One.  If we take VGC's numbers for the rest of the world, and adjust to the correct US numbers, it currently sits at 1.62M WW.  Wonder how long it will take to pass 2M WW, as its dead outside of US and UK.

And not sure if creamsugar said anything about it, but I wonder if Infamous outsold it, again.



 

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Welfare on 17 June 2014
Barenziah said:
so titanfall over on ONE and under on 360

or are bundles missing,were there 360 bundles


Titanfall [360] IS under tracked. NO bundles.

Titanfall [XBO] is STAND ALONE numbers. NO BUNDLES. WITH bundles it did >1mil first month.



Won bet with t3mporary_126 - I correctly predicted that the Wii U's LTD at the end of 2014 would be closer to 9 million than 10 million. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6673287

Welfare on 17 June 2014
thismeintiel said:
Welfare said:
LTD
DKC: Tropical Freeze [WiU] 258k
Lightening Returns FF [PS3] 135k [360] 71k
PVZ: Garden Warfare [XB1] 257k [360] 150k
FF10HD [PS3] 259k
South Park SoT [360] 279k [PS3] 228k
Titanfall [XB1] 969k [360] 559k
Dark Souls 2 [360] 212k [PS3] 209k
Infamous SS [PS4] 617k
MGSV: Ground Zeroes [Total] 357k [PS4] >179k

I think it's pretty obvious why we haven't gotten any numbers about Titanfall One, looking at those numbers.  1M is nothing to scoff at, but it is definitely below what it should have sold, considering the game was hyped to high heaven (GOTY/GOTG) and touted as the savior of the One.  If VGC's numbers, and adjust to the correct US numbers, it currently sits at 1.62M WW.  Wonder how long it will take to pass 2M WW, as its dead outside of US and UK.

And not sure if creamsugar said anything about it, but I wonder if Infamous outsold it, again.

That Titanfall [XB1] is STAND ALONE numbers. No bundles are included with that number. Would be higher, as it was >1mil in March, and 50% of XB1 sold in April were the Titanfall bundle.



Won bet with t3mporary_126 - I correctly predicted that the Wii U's LTD at the end of 2014 would be closer to 9 million than 10 million. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6673287

jlmurph2 on 17 June 2014
thismeintiel said:
Welfare said:
LTD
DKC: Tropical Freeze [WiU] 258k
Lightening Returns FF [PS3] 135k [360] 71k
PVZ: Garden Warfare [XB1] 257k [360] 150k
FF10HD [PS3] 259k
South Park SoT [360] 279k [PS3] 228k
Titanfall [XB1] 969k [360] 559k
Dark Souls 2 [360] 212k [PS3] 209k
Infamous SS [PS4] 617k
MGSV: Ground Zeroes [Total] 357k [PS4] >179k

I think it's pretty obvious why we haven't gotten any numbers about Titanfall One, looking at those numbers.  1M is nothing to scoff at, but it is definitely below what it should have sold, considering the game was hyped to high heaven (GOTY/GOTG) and touted as the savior of the One.  If we take VGC's numbers for the rest of the world, and adjust to the correct US numbers, it currently sits at 1.62M WW.  Wonder how long it will take to pass 2M WW, as its dead outside of US and UK.

And not sure if creamsugar said anything about it, but I wonder if Infamous outsold it, again.


That doesn't include bundle or digital.



Yakuzaice on 17 June 2014
Vena said:

Which is why I said it didn't make sense at all to work with the numbers we're working with. As I said at the very end of my last statement, given the numbers we're looking at and if the numbers are as we're hypothetically breaking them down, then the WiiU moved next to nothing in the days following the TWO days that the bundle and MK8 was on the market.

So you're basically arguing that Reggie, with his quote in June, was talking about only two days of May, and that the WiiU sold nothing in the subsequent days of the first week in June.

And just to be clear, I am not trying to argue that WiiU sold some phenomenal numbers or that its even been saved, but that these numbers and the info from Nintendo don't seem to gel unless we make some weird statements or hard cuts to numbers. Hence why I keep saying to wait till June's numbers.

No, I'm arguing that he was referring to the last week of May.  Using the same tracking weeks that NPD/VGC use.  The numbers gel pretty well like that.

If you don't believe these numbers then waiting until June won't really do any good.  We are unlikely to get official numbers from Nintendo unless they do really well.



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Vena on 17 June 2014
Yakuzaice said:
Vena said:

Which is why I said it didn't make sense at all to work with the numbers we're working with. As I said at the very end of my last statement, given the numbers we're looking at and if the numbers are as we're hypothetically breaking them down, then the WiiU moved next to nothing in the days following the TWO days that the bundle and MK8 was on the market.

So you're basically arguing that Reggie, with his quote in June, was talking about only two days of May, and that the WiiU sold nothing in the subsequent days of the first week in June.

And just to be clear, I am not trying to argue that WiiU sold some phenomenal numbers or that its even been saved, but that these numbers and the info from Nintendo don't seem to gel unless we make some weird statements or hard cuts to numbers. Hence why I keep saying to wait till June's numbers.

No, I'm arguing that he was referring to the last week of May.  Using the same tracking weeks that NPD/VGC use.  The numbers gel pretty well like that.

If you don't believe these numbers then waiting until June won't really do any good.  We are unlikely to get official numbers from Nintendo unless they do really well.

I doubt he'd be referring to the last two days as the "last week of May", the quote we're talking about was with regards to MK8 and the WiiU. Two days are not a week no matter how we spin it, and the whole discussion on this comes up well after the first week of June was already over (as it came from E3).

It doesn't flow logically to me. Two days is not a week, and the original quote and article on Polygon was about the week following its release... coming out on the second week of June. (Also I'm pretty sure we don't have actual numbers even from NPD, we have an estimate based on the 85% statement. All we know, seemingly concretely, is that the MK8 bundle sold 25k+ and sold out.)



Max King of the Wild on 17 June 2014

2days is a week because in sales it's counting the 5 days prior to launch as well....



thismeintiel on 17 June 2014
Welfare said:
thismeintiel said:
Welfare said:
LTD
DKC: Tropical Freeze [WiU] 258k
Lightening Returns FF [PS3] 135k [360] 71k
PVZ: Garden Warfare [XB1] 257k [360] 150k
FF10HD [PS3] 259k
South Park SoT [360] 279k [PS3] 228k
Titanfall [XB1] 969k [360] 559k
Dark Souls 2 [360] 212k [PS3] 209k
Infamous SS [PS4] 617k
MGSV: Ground Zeroes [Total] 357k [PS4] >179k

I think it's pretty obvious why we haven't gotten any numbers about Titanfall One, looking at those numbers.  1M is nothing to scoff at, but it is definitely below what it should have sold, considering the game was hyped to high heaven (GOTY/GOTG) and touted as the savior of the One.  If VGC's numbers, and adjust to the correct US numbers, it currently sits at 1.62M WW.  Wonder how long it will take to pass 2M WW, as its dead outside of US and UK.

And not sure if creamsugar said anything about it, but I wonder if Infamous outsold it, again.

That Titanfall [XB1] is STAND ALONE numbers. No bundles are included with that number. Would be higher, as it was >1mil in March, and 50% of XB1 sold in April were the Titanfall bundle.

Oh, ok.  So VGC may actually be accurate, at ~1.85M.  It should definitely pass 2M in a few months.  Similar to what I said, 2M is nothing to scoff at, but definitely not what it was hyped up to be by fans and MS.



 

Vena on 17 June 2014
Max King of the Wild said:
2days is a week because in sales it's counting the 5 days prior to launch as well....

Week following != five days before its release + two days.



Max King of the Wild on 17 June 2014
Vena said:
Max King of the Wild said:
2days is a week because in sales it's counting the 5 days prior to launch as well....

Week following != five days before its release + two days.


Yes it does. Like every fucking media sales. Think of movies. It's first week is usually only two days. Sales weeks end on sat. The week of 18-24 was 4 times less than 25-31. Just accept it