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Would you buy FFT-0 on Vita,PS4, or XBO?

Vita 119 56.40%
 
PS4 63 29.86%
 
XBO 23 10.90%
 
All of the Above 6 2.84%
 
Total:211
Uabit on 14 June 2014

Why launch games on a death console? Same goes for Wii U.



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V-r0cK on 14 June 2014
Sh1nn said:

Poor mans update like FFX ? 

You miss the screenshot or what ? 

FF Type-0 HD

FFXV

That's a full blown remake not a simple HD remaster.

If Type-0 does end up looking like that screenshot shown then I completely understand why it's not coming out for the Vita.  

But seriously, Vita deserves this game more than any other console; the least Square can do is put up the translated PSP version (which was already done since the game was released in Japan back in 2011) onto the PSN across the world so Vita owners will still get their own version (sort of).



forevercloud3000 on 14 June 2014
Uabit said:
Why launch games on a death console? Same goes for Wii U.


Vita is Life, for it can NEVER DIE!!!!!!!!!!

Look at reasons stated in OP to get a better picture of what we are dealing with here. I'm not saying it should be exclusive, but omitting Vita is nonsensical.



      

      

      

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melbye on 14 June 2014

Frankly it makes no sense releasing it on Vita, if anything they should have released it on 3DS



Mirson on 14 June 2014
nitekrawler1285 said:
Mirson said:

Can't we just be grateful that Type-0 is finally getting a western release? Moving it to the new generation of consoles was probably the only way to renew interest in a PSP game and less risky than releasing it on the Vita.

I think people can be grateful the game is getting a western release and still not at all happy about the details of said release. 

There was interest in the game from Vita fans well before this announcement and I believe JRPG Vita proves it.  

Releasing it on the Vita would be the least risky option if only becuase it requires by far the least amount of work and investment on SE's part(just localize and upload to PSN as PSP game).  

When the most vocal fans get excluded even though their inclusion takes the least amount of work it's understandable you will get more people expressing upset than grateful.  

Localizing a three year old PSP wouldn't generate the same interest or sales as it would when it was still fresh in people's mind. Many moved on which is why they needed to rerelease it as a brand new game on systems that are rising in popularity (PS4/X1) as opposed to the Vita. Square did mentioned before that they were concerned about the Vita's performance overseas which was a deciding factor on whether Type-0 would come to the Vita or not. They didn't promise you guys anything. If someone is to blame, blame Sony. The past two Sony E3 are a good example; they pretty much disregarded the Vita.

This isn't like Sega where they thanked PS3 fans for supporting Valkyria Chronicles, and then releasing the sequel to the PSP.



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forevercloud3000 on 14 June 2014
V-r0cK said:
Sh1nn said:

Poor mans update like FFX ? 

You miss the screenshot or what ? 

FF Type-0 HD

FFXV

That's a full blown remake not a simple HD remaster

If Type-0 does end up looking like that screenshot shown then I completely understand why it's not coming out for the Vita.  

But seriously, Vita deserves this game more than any other console; the least Square can do is put up the translated PSP version (which was already done since the game was released in Japan back in 2011) onto the PSN across the world so Vita owners will still get their own version (sort of).

And some of you think I'M the one being unrealistic....

Lets be real here, the game is NOT going to look like FFXV, shit its gonna be lucky to look like FFXIII. No matter what they do to the graphics, it can/could always be downscaled for Vita to handle the game. The game is first off coming out in 2015(by SE's own time frame). SE announces stuff in very early to no developement. MEANING this game is going to be something that can be completed between now and the end of 2015. If FFXV quality game could be done within a year.........I think they would have some serious explaining to do. This is a HD PORT of the game. Higher textures, higher framerate, port code, BAM, Print to sell.



      

      

      

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forevercloud3000 on 14 June 2014
melbye said:
Frankly it makes no sense releasing it on Vita, if anything they should have released it on 3DS

Vita uservase is where they KNOW people want the game.

The game on 3DS would be entirely unproven

Not to mention the game would be a massive downgrade on 3DS as opposed to being an improvement over original release like it would be on PS4/XBO/Vita



      

      

      

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nitekrawler1285 on 14 June 2014
Mirson said:
nitekrawler1285 said:
Mirson said:

Can't we just be grateful that Type-0 is finally getting a western release? Moving it to the new generation of consoles was probably the only way to renew interest in a PSP game and less risky than releasing it on the Vita.

I think people can be grateful the game is getting a western release and still not at all happy about the details of said release. 

There was interest in the game from Vita fans well before this announcement and I believe JRPG Vita proves it.  

Releasing it on the Vita would be the least risky option if only becuase it requires by far the least amount of work and investment on SE's part(just localize and upload to PSN as PSP game).  

When the most vocal fans get excluded even though their inclusion takes the least amount of work it's understandable you will get more people expressing upset than grateful.  

Localizing a three year old PSP wouldn't generate the same interest or sales as it would when it was still fresh in people's mind. Many moved on which is why they needed to rerelease it as a brand new game on systems that are rising in popularity (PS4/X1) as opposed to the Vita. Square did mentioned before that they were concerned about the Vita's performance overseas which was a deciding factor on whether Type-0 would come to the Vita or not. They didn't promise you guys anything. If someone is to blame, blame Sony. The past two Sony E3 are a good example; they pretty much disregarded the Vita.

This isn't like Sega where they thanked PS3 fans for supporting Valkyria Chronicles, and then releasing the sequel to the PSP.


They could have localized it far before it was a 3 year old PSP game.  Believe it or not knowing that big name games are coming helps people to make the decision to buy a Vita. I bought FFXHD as a token to get more games such as this int he future.    

I never said anyone promised anything. I'm just pointing out that they just chose to ignore ignore those people whom have expressed the most interest in the game and take the least amount of work to please.  What kind of business sense is that?   

I give Sony most of the blame all the time around here. SE has some blame too. They announced it for Vita in the first place.    



small44 on 14 June 2014
smbu2000 said:
forevercloud3000 said:
Mirson said:

Can't we just be grateful that Type-0 is finally getting a western release? Moving it to the new generation of consoles was probably the only way to renew interest in a PSP game and less risky than releasing it on the Vita.

No we cannot

When you were a child and all you ever wanted was a Pony and then for Christmas your parents get a Pony.........for your sister. 

That is what this feels like.

Vita owners made the ruckus FOR the Vita, and we got totally overlooked. Vita owners buy up good games, contrary to what some want you to believe. It would have sold well. For reference, look at FFX/X-2 HD numbers on PS3 vs Vita, a Square Enix game no less.

I am not saying it should be Vita exclusive.... but not even Vita/PS4/XBO? I would bet money that a Vita/PS4 would drastically outperform a PS4/XBO. FF sales were one sided when the twins were neck and neck, whats it gonna be now that PS is double Xbox? This is why it is annoying they totally left Vita owners out in the cold with this one yet again.

Vita owners may buy up good games, but the userbase for the Vita is pathetically small outside of Japan. It makes much more sense for SE to target the Western release of the game on systems that are popular overseas. PS3/360 could've also been a possibility with their large userbases, but the PS4/X1 are the systems that people are buying/will be buying in the future. The Vita is a dead end in the West as the small userbase limits the possible sales for the game. (probably the same reason for lack of a Wii U version)

I consider myself a JP Vita owner (I'm not Japanese, but I own a JP Vita and live in Japan) and if I wanted to play the game, I'd just go for the Vita compatible PSP version. I'm sure other Vita owners have already done the same here.

Vita userbase is small but they are really active and wii u had also a small userbase and still get a lot of multiplatform



PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m

Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m

forevercloud3000 on 14 June 2014
nitekrawler1285 said:
Mirson said:
nitekrawler1285 said:
Mirson said:

Can't we just be grateful that Type-0 is finally getting a western release? Moving it to the new generation of consoles was probably the only way to renew interest in a PSP game and less risky than releasing it on the Vita.

I think people can be grateful the game is getting a western release and still not at all happy about the details of said release. 

There was interest in the game from Vita fans well before this announcement and I believe JRPG Vita proves it.  

Releasing it on the Vita would be the least risky option if only becuase it requires by far the least amount of work and investment on SE's part(just localize and upload to PSN as PSP game).  

When the most vocal fans get excluded even though their inclusion takes the least amount of work it's understandable you will get more people expressing upset than grateful.  

Localizing a three year old PSP wouldn't generate the same interest or sales as it would when it was still fresh in people's mind. Many moved on which is why they needed to rerelease it as a brand new game on systems that are rising in popularity (PS4/X1) as opposed to the Vita. Square did mentioned before that they were concerned about the Vita's performance overseas which was a deciding factor on whether Type-0 would come to the Vita or not. They didn't promise you guys anything. If someone is to blame, blame Sony. The past two Sony E3 are a good example; they pretty much disregarded the Vita.

This isn't like Sega where they thanked PS3 fans for supporting Valkyria Chronicles, and then releasing the sequel to the PSP.


They could have localized it far before it was a 3 year old PSP game.  Believe it or not knowing that big name games are coming helps people to make the decision to buy a Vita. I bought FFXHD as a token to get more games such as this int he future.    

I never said anyone promised anything. I'm just pointing out that they just chose to ignore ignore those people whom have expressed the most interest in the game and take the least amount of work to please.  What kind of business sense is that?   

I give Sony most of the blame all the time around here. SE has some blame too. They announced it for Vita in the first place.    


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