Yeah.  Unless you has something crazy like Kratos' level 3 that could score 5 or more kills, it was never worth it.  Level one is the way to go.  And of course in a one on one battle waiting for a level 2 meant you already lost.

All they need to do is make a smash bros melee clone with their characters and ignore what everyone says and stop trying so hard to be different from smash bros.

this is what this game needs to be....

This game, Playstation ......., cant just be a smash bros clone anymore. It has to more than that, or dont bother. IT has to be a least three games in one.

First, a tag fighting game with damage bars, cool and funny "Fatalities", and customizable special attacks and finishers. Runes and loot system. points per kill, assists, fatalities, and more. Even if you lose, you still get some points.

Second, kart racing game with same characters as in the fighting game. Similar mechanics, damage bars, and you are out of the race if your kart takes too much damage. Kill points, same as above. You unlock better weapons and karts parts with points earned. A prestige system with really cool visual rewards.

Last, a tower defense or moba style arena. THINK DUNGEON DEFENDERS and SMITE. Third person camera. Each characters have their own towers based on their own universe. This can be coop or competitive, but always battling for points. Nathan Drake can be a person shooter, Kratos a melee machine, Sly a stealth assassin...

too expensive. I know. Thats why i say this has be a free-to-play game that never ends. always adding more content, more karts, towers, fatalities, etc..

Also, this game has to have its own universe, its own characters, its own heroes and villains. Like Apokolips in DC comics. A planet or galaxy, obsessed with games.

thoughts ideas?? :)

This!

I wish they deviate more to emulating Smash in this regard. 

The first game was okay to me, hopefully they get rid of the superpower kill. 

Please be fake.

How can you say Jak, Daxter and Sly but not say Ratchet and Clank *facepalm* lol...
I think as much as people hate on FFXIII, Lightning would be a awesome fit for a brawler also Zidane for his agility..
They need Max and Monica from Dark Cloud 2. 
I think adding  a GTA character would be a horrible Idea though. I thought Drake seemed awkward in the first game cause he was too realistic. Would be worse for CJ lol.
Sony needs to add some crazy unexpected special characters, Crash and Spyro gotta be in the sequel but people like darts and so on need apparances as well. They also need stages based off all big franchises like a gran trismo stage and so on. Also remove barriers. I think enclosing a stage ruins the fun. of course add deaths to being knocked out the stage. Make supers way harder to get so atleast if it kills people, it would be fair. 

I think the moogle pretty much confirms it won't be...because Lightning will be in it!

what i like about supers was that you had to be agressive to win. you couldn't win without a super and you couldn't super without actually engaging in a fight.  i get annoyed in smash by the guys that refuse to fight and just try to avoid conflict until someone has a high damage and they try to swoop in for the kill. or the matches where litterally everyone is running away from each other waiting for someone else to make a move. 

maybe they could split the difference.  just like smash in that you take damage and try to ring out opponents expept you can't spam your smash/super because you have to charge you smah/super up by causing damage first.  smash/supers don't cuase any damage just help with ringouts but charge up quickly enough that not every smash/super is guarenteed to ring out and you have a chance to recover if your damage is low enough. 

I totally forgot about Ratchet and Clank sorry lol

Maybe Cj with jetpack?