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Forums - Nintendo Discussion - I feel like Nintendo is in big trouble at this point. Here's why:

I would argue the complete opposite.

- People that say Nintendo's online is 2 generations behind have clearly never touched a WiiU. While it's not as good as the other 8th gen consoles, it's still better than any of the 7th gen console.
- For the 8th gen, Nintendo is currently sitting at close to 50million units sold. More than double all other 8th gen consoles combined. A year head start? Yes. But, 50 million will not be caught any time soon.
- For every 3rd party game that skips Nintendo, they get another 3rd or 1st party exclusive to make up for it.
- The 3DS is the only handheld dedicated gaming machine to survive the mobile surge.
- Mario Kart 8 has shown that the WiiU still has some fight left in it. We wont see a new Nintendo home console until late 2017.




8th gen predictions. (made early 2014)
PS4: 60-65m
WiiU: 30-35m
X1: 30-35m
3DS: 80-85m
PSV: 15-20m

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I'll retract this one. I've a better response



Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.

jigokutamago said:
This is a joke thread. I don't care if you think otherwise.

Oh, now i get it.

This makes much more sense.



Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.

I... you... online... What?

So, their online is lagless (on Wii U), but because there aren't 32 PLAYERS in MK online it sucks? Or do you want 32 v 32 in Smash?

Everything else was really well done, and I kind of agree, but the online part made me "uuugghhh" to myself.



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Captain_Tom said:

Well I can see you actually read it, thank you.  I didn't say to release another middling console.  I said to finally release a standard console done right.  The N64 had massive storage bottlenecks that chased away several franchises, and the Gamecube did the same thing while also looking like a kids toy.  They need to do this since they cannot afford the gamble of another shot in the dark like the Wii/ Wii U.  A well thought out above-average console is something Nintendo hasn't done sice the NES.  Forget gimmicks, make something that works!

You said to release a console thats above PS4, yet still cheap, which means that when the PS5 releases, it will be left behind again. However, you did say that they would release another console in 2020 which would compete with the PS5, but that is a HORRIBLY short console life span which would likely piss a lot of people off and also fall victim to the fact that it often takes a few years for games to really utilize a console to its fullest ability. Also, do you honestly expect a middle-gen console to be able to sell 40-60mil in four years? That is ridiculous...

Additionally, you now are putting Nintendo in direct competition with two other consoles, instead of having them working in their own space, which puts them at another disadvantage.

Your strategy just doesn't make very much sense.

(IMO) What Nintendo needs to do is consolidate and expand. Create a hybrid console (handheld/console) for release alongside the PS5 and XBox 2(?) to allow them to focus all of their development resources on one console (obviously this is a very difficult and risky task, so if they decide to go the standard route of having a handheld and a home console, they will need to put their resources even more strongly into expansion). This will go a long way in eliminating huge gaps in software releases. Additionally, they should expand by purchasing more western development studios to work more variety into their lineup. Nintendo doesn't have an easy road ahead of them, but if they start doing what everybody else does, they are no longer the Nintendo that I know and love



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I agree with most of what's been said here. My disagreement starts at the idea that they should have two four-year consoles in a row. Should they release a new console in 2016? Yes. Should it be "conservative?" Absolutely not. There are definitely things it needs to do. Paid online? Never. If Nintendo plans on taking any loss anywhere, it should be in providing free online, not on hardware. The console Nintendo releases in 2016 needs to be there main console.

I agree that it should be more powerful than the PS4, but it doesn't need to dwarf it. It just needs to be able to have a competitive price. Whatever they can build for $300 with a 1TB built in HDD while still selling at a profit. It only needs to edge the PS4 out. It doesn't need to outright decimate it. The PS4 is the 10 year console. That means this theoretical console would have at least 6 years of being the most powerful console.

The console needs to have the same architecture as the PS4 and XBO, whatever that is. It needs to be extremely easy to port games over. It needs to be backwards compatible.

As for Nintendo, they need to start making major acquisitions NOW. The fact of the matter is, they simply won't be convincing third parties that their games will sell until after Nintendo does well with more diverse software. In order to do that, they need to go overboard with exclusives. I've said it before, and I'll say it a thousand times: Nintendo doesn't need third party. Nintendo is the only console manufacturer around who can be completely self sustained, like Disney. In order to do that, they need to start acting like Disney.

Buy Capcom. Buy Sega. Make TV shows. Make movies. Tie them back to Nintendo games. Buy stock in Konami. Buy stock in Bandai-Namco. Buy a ton of stock in Square Enix. Get exclusives from all three. Build and buy at least five new western first party studios. Make new IPs like Sunset Overdrive and God of War that appeal to the west more directly. Have a software environment that benefits from 3rd party presence, but isn't harmed by third party absence. The 3DS does this. It's time for the home console to.

Buy a company that works with the cloud. Turn NNID's into a cloud based account like iTunes and Pokemon bank. Have it so that all games bought on this new Nintendo console and the subsequent handheld can be stored into this cloud, just like with iTunes.

Create an NNID app. Make it feel more like Instagram or Facebook for games than what Miiverse feels like now, which is... I don't even know. Communities are good. The current profile customization isn't. Make people want to check their phones for Nintendo. Allow eshop purchases through the app. Allow people to edit the screenshots the post. Allow people with private profiles to post whatever they want on their private profiles that only their friends can see, free of censors. Allow Tomodatchi-like Mii customization. Allow the next handheld to tether its internet to your phone's network through this NNID app.

Get modern. Add achievements, party chat, larger friends list, and everything else that is standard now. Get progressive. Think of something that hasn't been done yet in that regard, and do it. The loyalty reward idea is good. Playstation now/Netflix is not. Virtual Console will be fine once you quit resetting it every generation. Cloud storage would fix that.

Further integrate handhelds and consoles. Allow users to play every handheld on the big screen and stream every console game on the go.

Nintendo can get out of trouble, but they need to start laying the groundwork NOW.



this thread means nothing imho.

Nintendo can make this year amazing for the wii u. just need almost monthly releases......many new games shown for 2015 and possible 2014 and mk8 or higher standard of hype building and advertsing.



You have neither a clue nor imagination. 

 

If something is unknown the brain always thinks it is in trouble. But relax: it's not your job to be CEO of Nintendo... They have a whole team of world class engineers, developers, marketeers and a CEO with a vision. 



A Mid Gen console? Nope.
PSN like infrastructure for free? lol, no.
"Mature" games? Bayonetta 2 is a step in the right direction is it not?
Strongest Next Gen Console? Sony and Microsoft have the upper hand at having cutting edge technological resources, they do make PCs don't they?



Nintendo has 2 options

Either make a very cheap Nintendo only console

Or compete with the other 2 consoles with a powerful console

The problem is the Wii U is the Gamepad makes the console 80-100 USD more expensive that it should be

I think the first option is the best one for them. Nintendo not only is much smaller than Sony and Microsoft, it is also smaller than Ubisoft, EA and Activision.
They would have to associate themselves with a company like Panasonic or Samsung in order to compete as equals with Sony and Microsoft.

I think they should support the Wii U until they can sell for USD250 a console with 12 gigs of ram. that may be late in this decade.

They also shouldn't miss opportunities like buying Atlus