Lafiel said:
prolly was sitting in the car with the gun on the dash board or sth and then got shot to death - 2 can play that game |
Read it again, it said "expired" behind the wheel, not shot to death while behind the wheel, sigh....
| dahuman said: Read it again, it said "expired" behind the wheel, not shot to death while behind the wheel, sigh.... |
Oh, so it was probably the allergies?
Or are you trying to point out that the murder should be only when a person is instantly killed?
Xenostar said:
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No, what I said is shooting them in the leg is not so easy because the area is smaller, if you haven't actually shot guns before and get your information from movies/tv shows/anime/etcetc then you wouldn't know just how hard it is to actually aim that shit without practice. Chest is the most common area to aim at as a common theme due to that, the type of ammo also matters, a lot.
Burek said:
Or are you trying to point out that the murder should be only when a person is instantly killed? |
: the crime of deliberately killing a person
: something that is very difficult or unpleasant
source: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/murder
IT'S ONLY MURDER IF YOU BREAK THE FUCKING LAW! Sigh....
| dahuman said: Read it again, it said "expired" behind the wheel, not shot to death while behind the wheel, sigh.... |
It doesent say when he got shot or where he was ether... Im not saying that the guy was wrong to do it, im just saying that there is not enough to this story to draw a conclution. And before I start an argument I like to figgure out all the facts so it doesnt blow up in my face later :P
Callum_Alexander said:
You can capitalise the word all you want, but my morals aren't false and quite frankly for you to suggest so is both disrespectful and rude. If somebody had me at gunpoint, as I said above, I would try and defend myself by non-lethal means, whether that be running, tackling them, or talking my way out. I may not survive the situation, but just because somebody else is willing to do something bad doesn't mean I have the right to do that thing also. My morals are based upon what I have learned throughout my life so far, and what I have been taught by my peers. I know that killing is wrong even if it means I risk death myself, just as theft is wrong even if it betters my own position in life. There is no point believing something if you lack conviction in that belief. My morals may seem extreme, but what is the point in following any moral code if you don't truly believe it? |
Callum, you are perfectly correct, don't worry about them. They probably never heard that you can use an electrical taser, pepper spray or many other non-lethal weapons and object to defend yourself.
| dahuman said: No, what I said is shooting them in the leg is not so easy because the area is smaller, if you haven't actually shot guns before and get your information from movies/tv shows/anime/etcetc then you wouldn't know just how hard it is to actually aim that shit without practice. Chest is the most common area to aim at as a common theme due to that, the type of ammo also matters, a lot. |
Play video games i know its easier to get body shots than head shots. Doesnt mean i would go for the kill shot over trying to just subdue an attacker. In the heat of the moment who knows im sure no one is thinking calmly and logically, its a tragic story. A life was lost over something pathetic.
Good god, the comments in here are horrible. I mean, a guy made terrible analogy "better not have a gun when you illegaly park. You deserve to die!"
Dude, there's a difference between parking at an expired meter....and armed freaking robbery. His "vigilantism went too far" because the driver died behind the wheel? But if a cop did the same thing and shot at the guy (which he would have), people would probably say "he was just doing his job since the criminal was trying to get away". In a situation like this, "vigilantism" is just "justice" without a badge. It's not like some serial killer was on the loose, and I took it upon myself to hunt him down, like Batman or something.
Absolute morals? Would never EVER take a life? Non-lethal methods are preferable, obviously, but if those methods don't work and the aggresor is still coming after you, then what? You can't "quietly walk away and call the police" in a situation like that. If someones stomping the shit out of me, I'm gonna stop punching back in the arms and legs, hoping the guy will stop, and start aiming for the gut (internal organs) and head. And he may die as a result
dahuman said:1mur·dernoun ˈmər-dər: the crime of deliberately killing a person : something that is very difficult or unpleasant Full Definition of MURDER1
: the crime of unlawfully killing a person especially with malice aforethought
2
a : something very difficult or dangerous murder> b : something outrageous or blameworthy murder>
source: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/murder
IT'S ONLY MURDER IF YOU BREAK THE FUCKING LAW! Sigh.... |
You must be kidding? You have just quoted the dictionary that completely contradicts your point!
"the crime of deliberately killing a person". This murderer deliberately killed another person. And he did it unlawfully, because he is not a member of a legal police or army unit that is authorized to use force if necessary.
No matter what you may have warped this situation into, a person has been murdered...
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