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Germany 2 - 0 Argentina



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TomaTito said:

I'm surprised people watched the match yesterday? Who watches that?
Poor Nederland, only third, I was sooo rooting for you last Wednesday, even wearing oranje.

Final today is horrible to pick a winner, I don't want any of them to win. Jajaja.
The Argentines just because, and the Germans would gloat even more.

Give the cup to Messi and be done with it.

I don't think it can be called gloating. No other team in the world has played so consistently good and gained so little of it.

If we win today it will be a deserved relief. You can hardly gloat about reaching 8 finals and winning only 4. No other team lost as many finals as we did. We fucking deserve this trophy for once after giving it freely away to other teams for years.



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weaveworld said:

Wow, you really got some hopes and dreams there...

Losing in quarter finals every single time means you're no better than that. When the premiership finally puts a ban on non-native players, then, only just then, England might grow to become one of the best tournament teams around. Untill then, keep enjoying the imported working class heroes on tournaments, playing for any team but the English.

Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see them top for once, but the amount of foreigners in your competition is holding English talent back, way back.

At least your clubteams are the most supported in the world.

Firstly that's not possible as it is illegal based on EU law, would probably get shot down by the Court of Human Rights as well so...

Secondly foreign players in the premier league isn't what makes England crap. They are crap mostly because they have inadequate coaching at youth level. English players being so overhyped doesn't help either, it makes them so much more expensive than buying foreign players so they are a much greater risk to buy, this could be reduced by forcing all contracts to have a min release fee like they do in Spain.

Thirdly English players only playing in the premier league also contributes to making the England team poor. If more players were to go abroard and play in the French, German, Spanish, Italian leagues they would be better players. Look at all the top countries, they have players that have went abroard and both those players and the national team have benefited from it.



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Dark_Lord_2008 said:

Germany have a better tactical team than Argentina and Germany have had the best form at this World Cup. Argentina have world class super star Messi, comparable to Diego Maradonna. The pressure is on Messi to prove whether he is as good as Maradonna and lead Messi's Argentina to World Cup victory. Messi's Argentina loses and Messi will be regarded as a great player at club level but a failure at national level without guiding Argentina to World Cup victory.


He got them to the final already. Last I checked getting to the final isn't a failure.



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Ka-pi96 said:
Dark_Lord_2008 said:

Germany have a better tactical team than Argentina and Germany have had the best form at this World Cup. Argentina have world class super star Messi, comparable to Diego Maradonna. The pressure is on Messi to prove whether he is as good as Maradonna and lead Messi's Argentina to World Cup victory. Messi's Argentina loses and Messi will be regarded as a great player at club level but a failure at national level without guiding Argentina to World Cup victory.


He got them to the final already. Last I checked getting to the final isn't a failure.

 

It was all luck according to all of the Argentina haters  :) 

Even though Argentina are the only team not to be behind in a game this tournament. 

Germany tied Ghana 2-2, And narrowed by usa and went to extra time with Algeria.

So Germany wins this with ease today. lol just messing around.

I hate how the media isn't bringing up these results at all. 

All that matters is beating a demoralised Brazil 7-1 and Portugal sucked to start with. 

 

All of this from the media makes me want Argentina to win even more just to shut up the haters.

I hope Argentina wins today for that alone and Messi gets his moment.

I do have Germany winning 1-0 though. 



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TomaTito said:
Chris Hu said:

Each game in the emliation round the won by the score of 1-0 if its not a fluke then they won it by extreme luck instead.  Also with the Euopean Championship its probably a lot like the FIBA Basketball World Cup/Championship where not every country that qualifies sends their best squat the US pretty much would have won all of those if they always would have send their best squat but they put a higher importance on winnig the gold medal in basketball in the Olympics.

That's right, countries send their B-teams to the Euros just to leave the A-team resting for the WC...

I told you, Chris Hu shouldn't be talking about sports.

My prediction for the unappealing matchup in the final:

Germany vs. Argentina 1-0.

Argentina is South America's Germany, France and Italy rolled into one. Or just take your pick between one of those. The point is, nobody likes them and nobody should like them. Rooting for Germany means rooting for the lesser evil. Go go go, Piefke!



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Brazil fans seeing Argentina lift the WC trophy in Rio de Janeiro would add more salt to their wounds. Out of spite Brazilian fans want Germany to win. There is no collective South American loyalty wanting Argentina to win WC. Out of spite Colombians, Ecuadorians, Chileans, Uruguayans and Brazilians more than likely want Germany to win the WC to deny Argentina glory!



Chris Hu said:
vivster said:
Chris Hu said:


Winning a European Champisonship is not the same as winning the World Cup.  Even the Soviet Union one it once and was runner up three times but they never did much in the World Cup either.  Another good example is Greece they won one 2004 historically even the US has done better in the World Cup then Greece.

The problem with the Euro is that there aren't many teams. You need a lot less luck to win it. I don't think it's possible to win a WC by a fluke. I also don't think you can win the 3 biggest tournaments in a row by a fluke. Spain played a lot of games like shit but they still earned their victories because the other teams always played even shittier. It's less that Spain were lucky to win and more that their opponents didn't have their shit together.


Each game in the emliation round the won by the score of 1-0 if its not a fluke then they won it by extreme luck instead.  Also with the Euopean Championship its probably a lot like the FIBA Basketball World Cup/Championship where not every country that qualifies sends their best squat the US pretty much would have won all of those if they always would have send their best squat but they put a higher importance on winnig the gold medal in basketball in the Olympics.

It's the exact opposite in football though. Olympics is utterly unimportant and the Euros are the next best thing to the World Cup.
No player would voluntarily leave out playing the Euros.



This being my first world cup, I must say that Brazil really let me down.

I am going for Argentina, but Germany is unstoppable?



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People are always going on about the 2-2 tie between Germany and Ghana, or the close wins of Germany over the USA and Algeria. But Bosnia, Iran, Nigeria, and Switzerland all gave Argentina a run for their money as well. I think Ghana is a pretty good African team, and remember, they came very close to going to the semi finals in 2010. Just because certain teams are underdogs doesn't mean you should automatically count them out. Costa Rica surprised many this World Cup.