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bananaking21 on 02 March 2016
The Fury said:
bananaking21 said:

and offer those clubs the chance to have guardiola, ancelotti, or diego simeone and they wouldnt even look at wenger. because they actually win.

and as i stated in my earlier post, Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea are having bad seasons. but the difference is, they arent happy about it. they dont brush it off and say "next year is our year" and just to recap, Chelsea won the season last year, City the Year before it, and Man UTd the year before that. you'd have to go a LONG way down that list to reach a year arsenal have won a league, and you can thank wenger for that. 

and just that proves my point, the biggest incentive to win the FA cup is to get in the Europa League, a league that big clubs dont give a shit about. 

Those clubs would love those managers too but you think too little of Wenger, so he's not in what I presume you think are the top 3 managers in the world, being in the top 10 is amazing. 

Then again, I'd actually like to see Guardiola at a club which isn't huge to see how he does, he's unproven at a lower level.  

i dont think too little of wenger. his accomplishments speak for them selfs. and they speak loud and clear. he isnt a good manager.



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The Fury on 02 March 2016
bananaking21 said:

i dont think too little of wenger. his accomplishments speak for them selfs. and they speak loud and clear. he isnt a good manager.

Okay dokay.



Hmm, pie.

Talal on 02 March 2016
The Fury said:

Those clubs would love those managers too but you think too little of Wenger, so he's not in what I presume you think are the top 3 managers in the world, being in the top 10 is amazing. 

Then again, I'd actually like to see Guardiola at a club which isn't huge to see how he does, he's unproven at a lower level.  

 

Guardiola got Barcelona B promoted to the second division after failing to get promoted for 11 years.



The Fury on 02 March 2016
Ka-pi96 said:

Is he though? I read an article the other day saying that if Arsenal don't win the league this year then Wenger needs to go. As part of it they said that most managers would be able to get Arsenal in to the top 4, and considering the team they've got I'd be inclined to agree. So if most managers could do it then what exactly is he doing above that? Nothing!

Yes, he is. You have to factor in a lot more things because 4-7 seasons ago, they weren't that good. The players Arsenal had weren't world class, internationals but not the best, they have 2 now so yes they should be doing better but so should Mourinho with a team that won the league last year. Liverpool have spent more than Arsenal by a long way over the years and other thn one random Champions League win, they've only finished above them once.

http://www.transferleague.co.uk/premier-league-2003-to-date/transfer-league-tables/premier-league-table-2003-to-date

Table of 10 years (as of 03 so Chelski time) of money spent per season, the amount of money Arsenal got from sales shows a sign of how the club/board were cashing in on players while not spending to replace them yet he still finsihed enough to get into the Champions league.

In reality we will never know unless he leaves and goes to another club before retirement. I personally think he should have left after the FA cup win after the trophy drought and left someone else have a go then. Leave on somewhat of a high. Him leaving could cause a Fergie like void however, where the new managers haven't done as well as they should have.



Hmm, pie.

NiKKoM on 02 March 2016

I don't even... xD



 

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NiKKoM on 02 March 2016

So this weekend Tottenham vs Arsenal... that one is huge..



 

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SecondWar on 02 March 2016

Cant make it up. Leicester draw then Spurs, City and Arsenal all go and lose.

Also this matchday has thrown the race for the top 4 right open. West Ham, United and Liverpool are all in with a shout (latter 2 could still win the Europa League for spot number 5). Also, given their form, you cant quite rule Chelsea out.



kristianity77 on 02 March 2016

Cant believe we drew last night yet have pulled away from the top 4. Thats incredible!

All we need now is a Spurs V Arsenal draw on Saturday and hope we can get a win at Watford and that would surely make Leicester favourites!



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NiKKoM on 02 March 2016
SecondWar said:
Cant make it up. Leicester draw then Spurs, City and Arsenal all go and lose.

Also this matchday has thrown the race for the top 4 right open. West Ham, United and Liverpool are all in with a shout (latter 2 could still win the Europa League for spot number 5). Also, given their form, you cant quite rule Chelsea out.

Probably after Saterday top 3 is also right open... when Arsenal loses

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/12181021/Arsenal-vs-Swansea-Premier-League-live.html

Petr Cech misses Spurs game
Arsenal's goalkeeper injured himself while running up for a corner and WILL miss the North London derby!
Laurent Koscielny is also out for that game. Arsenal in crisis? Probably not but they're not having a great time.

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bananaking21 on 02 March 2016

Arsenal chocking again. who didnt see this coming. here is hoping leicester win the title, would be an amazing accomplishment.