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Forums - Politics Discussion - Santa Barbara Massacre: To Hell With Facts

SocialistSlayer said:

That's a rather insulting article.  Are you insinuating that I don't know the facts.  Or only choose convenient facts that fit my arguments. 

I think it applies to pretty much everyone. Wasn't really aimed at you, though.



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SlayerRondo said:
McDonaldsGuy said:
I was there at the massacre and saw someone get shot and (probably) die. I am a UCSB student who just wanted to go on a bike ride, not get shot at. One of my friends was just confirmed dead.

How many more must die before we've had enough?


No one has at any time said that intermitant massacre's are acceptable in any quantity.

Are you implying that people have not had enough massacre?


I am talking about guns. We need significantly more gun control. Detailed background checks that include family members and friends, more restrictions, a gun registry, etc. etc.



McDonaldsGuy said:
SlayerRondo said:
McDonaldsGuy said:
I was there at the massacre and saw someone get shot and (probably) die. I am a UCSB student who just wanted to go on a bike ride, not get shot at. One of my friends was just confirmed dead.

How many more must die before we've had enough?


No one has at any time said that intermitant massacre's are acceptable in any quantity.

Are you implying that people have not had enough massacre?


I am talking about guns. We need significantly more gun control. Detailed background checks that include family members and friends, more restrictions, a gun registry, etc. etc.


He lived in the peoples republic of Kalifornia.  They have these things you clamor for.  He passed a background check. His guns were registered. He was restricted on the types a guns he could get "no assault weapons" only 10 round mags.



 

badgenome said:
SocialistSlayer said:

That's a rather insulting article.  Are you insinuating that I don't know the facts.  Or only choose convenient facts that fit my arguments. 

I think it applies to pretty much everyone. Wasn't really aimed at you, though.


We'll the article seems to imply that there are no true facts when it comes to shootings. And people only use it for political purposes. 

When in reality there are in fact people on the right side of this issue supported by facts. And there are indeed people on the wrong side that only intent is to spread lies and misinformation



 

He also killed half of his victims with a knife. Who's up for some knife control?



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McDonaldsGuy said:
SlayerRondo said:
McDonaldsGuy said:
I was there at the massacre and saw someone get shot and (probably) die. I am a UCSB student who just wanted to go on a bike ride, not get shot at. One of my friends was just confirmed dead.

How many more must die before we've had enough?


No one has at any time said that intermitant massacre's are acceptable in any quantity.

Are you implying that people have not had enough massacre?


I am talking about guns. We need significantly more gun control. Detailed background checks that include family members and friends, more restrictions, a gun registry, etc. etc.

Then why did you not just come right out and say that rather than being vague.

There are many in the media who when saying "How many more must die before we've had enough?" mean more video game restrictions.

I would also disagree with the need for more gun control.



This is the Game of Thrones

Where you either win

or you DIE

SocialistSlayer said:
McDonaldsGuy said:
SlayerRondo said:
McDonaldsGuy said:
I was there at the massacre and saw someone get shot and (probably) die. I am a UCSB student who just wanted to go on a bike ride, not get shot at. One of my friends was just confirmed dead.

How many more must die before we've had enough?


No one has at any time said that intermitant massacre's are acceptable in any quantity.

Are you implying that people have not had enough massacre?


I am talking about guns. We need significantly more gun control. Detailed background checks that include family members and friends, more restrictions, a gun registry, etc. etc.


He lived in the peoples republic of Kalifornia.  They have these things you clamor for.  He passed a background check. His guns were registered. He was restricted on the types a guns he could get "no assault weapons" only 10 round mags.

There is a very good chance he never read the article to begin with in the first place.

Why appeal to reason when you can appeal to people's emotion's.



This is the Game of Thrones

Where you either win

or you DIE

SocialistSlayer said:

We'll the article seems to imply that there are no true facts when it comes to shootings. And people only use it for political purposes. 

When in reality there are in fact people on the right side of this issue supported by facts. And there are indeed people on the wrong side that only intent is to spread lies and misinformation

I think the point is that people in today's hyper politicized world have an shitty but all too common tendency to make every awful event fit into their preconceived notion of things, to the point that almost within the hour after the Boston Marathon bombing Michael Moore felt comfortable going on Twitter to imply that the Tea Party had to be behind it while many others were openly hoping that it had been perpetrated by white non-Muslims.

Or, in other words, to hell with facts.



Luck said:
SocialistSlayer said:
Luck said:

Im just happy to be part of a community that doesn't value non-hunting guns as an essential household commodity.


What is a "hunting gun" as apposed to a "non hunting" gun.? What's the difference? 

Im sure they are technical differences, but I won't even go there. It's simply that some guns are owned because they can shoot at animals and other are owned because they can shoot at humans. It could be the same gun in both cases, it's not the point, it's about the intent of the individual.

 

Well did this guy use hunting guns or non hunting guns?

Was the knife a hunting knife? How about his car? 



 

SlayerRondo said:

Then why did you not just come right out and say that rather than being vague.

There are many in the media who when saying "How many more must die before we've had enough?" mean more video game restrictions.

I would also disagree with the need for more gun control.


True, when the cops went to his house after his parents showed him is insane videos, a gun registry wouldn't have helped at all. 

I mean knowing if an angry psycho has guns is completely irrelevant, right? Not to mention he passed the background check. As I said, we need better background checks.

And the fact that I said I was near the shootings, saw people get shot, registered on a video game forum, obviously I was referring to guns and not video games lmao. Come on guys!