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As for last generation, the Wii probably would have sold extremely well regardless of Sony's decision. However, the PS3 could have sold much more - potentially more than the Wii - if Sony didn't mess up so badly.



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Jay520 said:
If you define "greatest" to mean "best selling", then of course. But if that's the case then your point doesn't tell us anything that isn't already painfully obvious.

It wasn't painfully obvious to k-pi or to phantom-something.



Devil_Survivor said:
bubblegamer said:
When it comes to consoles, so far the PS3 has been the only exception to this rule. And even that will change in a couple of years time.

The PS3 will not catch the Wii " in a couple years" or ever sales have dropped off already a lot.

Even so, it still will.



padib said:
Jay520 said:
If you define "greatest" to mean "best selling", then of course. But if that's the case then your point doesn't tell us anything that isn't already painfully obvious.

It wasn't painfully obvious to k-pi or to phantom-something.



It seems k-pi disagees with your interpretation of "greatest." Phantom doesn't realize that when you said "greatest publisher of dedicated console gaming" in your original post, you really meant "greatest software publisher of dedicated console gaming."

As usual on the internet, the source of the argument was caused by a lack of communication rather than a disagreement of points felt by opposing parties. Same goes for this entire thread: 90% of the "debates" in this thread have been shallow semantic disputes without any actual substance.

Jay520 said:

It seems k-pi disagees with your interpretation of "greatest." Phantom doesn't realize that when you said " greatest publisher of dedicated console gaming" in your original post, you really meant " greatest software publisher of dedicated console gaming."

As usual on the internet, the source of the argument is caused by a lack of communication rather than a disagreement of the points being argued. 90% of the "debates" on this thread have been shallow semantic disputes without any actual substance.

No Jay, I repeated to him many times what I was talking about, and to him Sony destroyed Nintendo in SW since they entered on the market. I repeated at least twice that I was talking about Nintendo-published games.

I communicated my idea perfectly since the first post, where I said Nintendo is the greatest software publisher of dedicated console gaming. As well as:

"Nintendo is still, by far, the greatest publisher of dedicated console gaming. Take a look at the overall game sales charts, and there you will find your answer."

People read what they want to read. You haven't learned that yet?



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padib said:
Jay520 said:

It seems k-pi disagees with your interpretation of "greatest." Phantom doesn't realize that when you said " greatest publisher of dedicated console gaming" in your original post, you really meant " greatest software publisher of dedicated console gaming."

As usual on the internet, the source of the argument is caused by a lack of communication rather than a disagreement of the points being argued. 90% of the "debates" on this thread have been shallow semantic disputes without any actual substance.

No Jay, I repeated to him many times what I was talking about, and to him Sony destroyed Nintendo in SW since they entered on the market. I repeated at least twice that I was talking about Nintendo-published games.

I communicated my idea perfectly since the first post, where I said Nintendo is the greatest software publisher of dedicated console gaming. As well as:

"Nintendo is still, by far, the greatest publisher of dedicated console gaming. Take a look at the overall game sales charts, and there you will find your answer."

People read what they want to read. You haven't learned that yet?



In your first post, you didn't explicitly state "software."

Anyway, we agree...phantom didn't realize what you meant, at least not until already deep into the argument where he argues that "greatest" doesn't depend on software published sales...again, a semantic dispute.

The PS is always the most complete system.I LOL@ anyone who has never owned at least one.That is just the facts.



Jay520 said:

Anyway, we agree...phantom didn't realize what you meant, at least not until already deep into the argument where he argues that "greatest" doesn't depend on software published sales...again, a semantic dispute.

You said it was flagrantly obvious. If it took a whole thread to explain what it means to be the greatest publisher in the industry and to look at the software sales charts, then it was definitely not obvious to him and that contradicts your original point.

It's not about semantics if it took him almost a whole thread for me to explain something supposedly flagrant.



padib said:
Jay520 said:

Anyway, we agree...phantom didn't realize what you meant, at least not until already deep into the argument where he argues that "greatest" doesn't depend on software published sales...again, a semantic dispute.

You said it was flagrantly obvious. If it took a whole thread to explain what it means to be the greatest publisher in the industry and to look at the software sales charts, then it was definitely not obvious to him and that contradicts your original point.

It's not about semantics if it took him almost a whole thread for me to explain something supposedly flagrant.

I said Nintendo being the best selling software publisher was obvious, but that's not what Phantom disagreed with. He never argued that Nintendo did not sell the most first-party published software. Rather, he disagreed with your implication of what "greatest" meant. He believed that the greatest publisher was the manufacturer who had the console had the most software sales (that's why he kept saying include third-party sales).



In fact, it does not even matter if it wasn't obvious to him. I said it was obvious, not obvious to him. Just because some random dude does not understand something obvious doesn't mean it's not obvious.