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except that Vita numbers are wrong, it was 48k last week according to the bundle sales, so it can not be 2k this week in US



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

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Aerys said:
except that Vita numbers are wrong, it was 48k last week according to the bundle sales, so it can not be 2k this week in US


TBH i wouldn't expect vita sales to be anywhere close to 48k (this meaning BL2 sold way less cuz last week was the bundle only version).

That said its wayyy  higher than wat vgc got. Probably FW sales should be imo 20k-30k



Mike_L said:
cpg716 said:
I am sure I will get flack for this but.. as far as Europe goes.. Xbox One is in just 8 European countries.. the PS4 is in over 20 of them.. Obviously Xbox One will track behind.

Again.. I am NOT saying the X1 would be tied if they are in equal.. the gap would be smaller. When September comes with a new price point for X1.. we could see some ground made up possibly.. But we all know that the PS4 will likely always be ahead in most of Europe with the UK being the one possible exception.


I get your point but Xbox One is in more than 8 European countries. Xbox One is sold both in retail and online stores all over Europe. What is sold here is actually skewing the US and UK numbers where I'm sure the PS4 would have an even larger lead without the inflation from the 26 countries.

 The pic below is from the Scandinavian retailer "Elgiganten" that only operates in Finland, Denmark, Norway and Sweden.

 

 
Edit: mornelithe and poklane beat me to it big time

This makes me wonder how many XBox Ones that are counted as UK numbers are sold in other EU countries



ModBod said:
Mike_L said:
cpg716 said:
I am sure I will get flack for this but.. as far as Europe goes.. Xbox One is in just 8 European countries.. the PS4 is in over 20 of them.. Obviously Xbox One will track behind.

Again.. I am NOT saying the X1 would be tied if they are in equal.. the gap would be smaller. When September comes with a new price point for X1.. we could see some ground made up possibly.. But we all know that the PS4 will likely always be ahead in most of Europe with the UK being the one possible exception.


I get your point but Xbox One is in more than 8 European countries. Xbox One is sold both in retail and online stores all over Europe. What is sold here is actually skewing the US and UK numbers where I'm sure the PS4 would have an even larger lead without the inflation from the 26 countries.

 The pic below is from the Scandinavian retailer "Elgiganten" that only operates in Finland, Denmark, Norway and Sweden.

 

 
Edit: mornelithe and poklane beat me to it big time

This makes me wonder how many XBox Ones that are counted as UK numbers are sold in other EU countries

 

Yeah me too. All the countries below import from US and UK so the numbers here must be a little inflated. Maybe 10k a week?

Argentina
Belgium
Chile
Colombia
Czech Republic
Denmark
Finland
Greece
Hungary
India
Israel
Japan
Korea
Netherlands
Norway
Poland
Portugal
Russia
Saudi Arabia
Singapore
Slovakia
South Africa
Sweden
Switzerland
Turkey
UAE

 

Actually XB1 is imported in more countries such as Croatia if we are to believe the users on this site.



For exemple, in Switzerland (Geneva)  for a while it was easier to find a X box One than a Ps4. 



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Mike_L said:
ModBod said:

This makes me wonder how many XBox Ones that are counted as UK numbers are sold in other EU countries

Yeah me too. All the countries below import from US and UK so the numbers here must be a little inflated. Maybe 10k a week?

Argentina
Belgium
Chile
Colombia
Czech Republic
Denmark
Finland
Greece
Hungary
India
Israel
Japan
Korea
Netherlands
Norway
Poland
Portugal
Russia
Saudi Arabia
Singapore
Slovakia
South Africa
Sweden
Switzerland
Turkey
UAE

Actually XB1 is imported in more countries such as Croatia if we are to believe the users on this site.

No, you have to differentiate between large resellers like the Metro Group, and basically internet traders. The Metro Group operates all over mainland Europe, but gets all stock from Microsoft. They buy wholesale from MS Europe and redistribute regular stock. On the other end of the scale, there are the importers, like "small dude shops" that shift stock from maybe the UK into their odd country. With the cheap Titanfall bundles in the US in April, a lot of small importers jumped to buying cheap US consoles and resell them way below regular European prices. At this time, many of the "dudes" are just waiting for MS to make the move, and do not plan to offer the Kinect-less bundle (according to one internet reseller, the warehouses in Germany are choked full with unsold Kinect bundles, so they gamble that the warehouses will be emptied basically by MS selling Kinect bundles for the same price as the official Kinect-less bundles after June 9th.



drkohler said:
Mike_L said:
ModBod said:

This makes me wonder how many XBox Ones that are counted as UK numbers are sold in other EU countries

Yeah me too. All the countries below import from US and UK so the numbers here must be a little inflated. Maybe 10k a week?

Argentina
Belgium
Chile
Colombia
Czech Republic
Denmark
Finland
Greece
Hungary
India
Israel
Japan
Korea
Netherlands
Norway
Poland
Portugal
Russia
Saudi Arabia
Singapore
Slovakia
South Africa
Sweden
Switzerland
Turkey
UAE

Actually XB1 is imported in more countries such as Croatia if we are to believe the users on this site.

No, you have to differentiate between large resellers like the Metro Group, and basically internet traders. The Metro Group operates all over mainland Europe, but gets all stock from Microsoft. They buy wholesale from MS Europe and redistribute regular stock. On the other end of the scale, there are the importers, like "small dude shops" that shift stock from maybe the UK into their odd country. With the cheap Titanfall bundles in the US in April, a lot of small importers jumped to buying cheap US consoles and resell them way below regular European prices. At this time, many of the "dudes" are just waiting for MS to make the move, and do not plan to offer the Kinect-less bundle (according to one internet reseller, the warehouses in Germany are choked full with unsold Kinect bundles, so they gamble that the warehouses will be emptied basically by MS selling Kinect bundles for the same price as the official Kinect-less bundles after June 9th.


You sound convincing and believable but it still conflicts a little with what I know.

"Elgiganten", "PC World", "Currys", etc. aren't small retailers and every XB1 sold here includes a UK power supply.



Mike_L said:

 

Yeah me too. All the countries below import from US and UK so the numbers here must be a little inflated. Maybe 10k a week?

Argentina
Belgium
Chile
Colombia
Czech Republic
Denmark
Finland
Greece
Hungary
India
Israel
Japan
Korea
Netherlands
Norway
Poland
Portugal
Russia
Saudi Arabia
Singapore
Slovakia
South Africa
Sweden
Switzerland
Turkey
UAE

 

Actually XB1 is imported in more countries such as Croatia if we are to believe the users on this site.

Slovenia:

http://playgame.si/xbox-konzola/xbox-one-igralna-konzola

http://www.goblin.si/xbox-one-igralne-konzole?zenid=7d86324e07b151626e0660a528084deb

Croatia:

https://www.svijet-medija.hr/gg/264/igrace-konzole?mpc[min]=0&mpc[max]=200000&groups[fieldset][value][1088]=1088&items_per_page=16&sort_order=none

http://www.sophoslab.hr/konzole/386.html

http://infomark.hr/kategorije/116#naslov

http://technomarket.hr/products/09134697/xbox-one-500gb-kinect

 

Serbia:

http://www.computerlandgames.rs/konzole-c8-pl15-list.htm

 

Bulgaria:

http://www.technomarket.bg/products/09134697/xbox-one-500gb-kinect



Mike_L said:
drkohler said:

Yeah me too. All the countries below import from US and UK so the numbers here must be a little inflated. Maybe 10k a week?

Argentina
Belgium
Chile
Colombia
Czech Republic
Denmark
Finland
Greece
Hungary
India
Israel
Japan
Korea
Netherlands
Norway
Poland
Portugal
Russia
Saudi Arabia
Singapore
Slovakia
South Africa
Sweden
Switzerland
Turkey
UAE

Actually XB1 is imported in more countries such as Croatia if we are to believe the users on this site.

No, you have to differentiate between large resellers like the Metro Group, and basically internet traders. The Metro Group operates all over mainland Europe, but gets all stock from Microsoft. They buy wholesale from MS Europe and redistribute regular stock. On the other end of the scale, there are the importers, like "small dude shops" that shift stock from maybe the UK into their odd country. With the cheap Titanfall bundles in the US in April, a lot of small importers jumped to buying cheap US consoles and resell them way below regular European prices. At this time, many of the "dudes" are just waiting for MS to make the move, and do not plan to offer the Kinect-less bundle (according to one internet reseller, the warehouses in Germany are choked full with unsold Kinect bundles, so they gamble that the warehouses will be emptied basically by MS selling Kinect bundles for the same price as the official Kinect-less bundles after June 9th.


You sound convincing and believable but it still conflicts a little with what I know.

"Elgiganten", "PC World", "Currys", etc. aren't small retailers and every XB1 sold here includes a UK power supply.


This must have an effect on the UK numbers, so maybe the numbers in the UK are not as close as we are lead to believe?



M.U.G.E.N said:
Turkish said:
sully1311 said:


It wasn't Pete Dodd who said it. Aquamarine from GAF confirmed it.

She isnt an insider nor has NPD info, she just does the math from available info.


wrong. She has access to them. 


When and where did she say that?