Locked: PS4 failed in Japan. PS4 become maybe last place in hardware selling. But whats the reason?

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Skullwaker on 18 April 2015

Manlytears said:
I agree, the 8th generation will not sell as much as the 7th generation, but this will not apply to all members of the 8th generation.

The Wii U will not get anywhere near the shadow of the Wii, but I'd be willing to bet that the Ps4 will reach numbers next to the Ps3! if this generation has a good size, something that allows a 9 years of life for Ps4, I would say the Ps4 will easily reach the 9,000,000 consoles sold in Japan and there is a possibility of this overcome the Ps3 (ie overcome 10,000,000 million consoles in Japan)

I will not speak about X1 in japan... you know why...

Yeah, I was just talking about as a whole. The 7th gen sold about 260m home consoles. In contrast, I predict the 8th gen going:

PS4: 100m-ish

XBO: 45-50m

Wii U: Around 20m

All together, that's around 170m which is quite a drop from last gen, and in fact, would be lower than the 6th gen also.

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estebxx on 18 April 2015

Skullwaker said:

estebxx said:
Yeah, the PS3 did have a lot of JRPGs. So you're invalidating his point further.

i never validated his point either... because the Jrpgs havent died yet (yes they are less present now than before but they are still arround), but you cant deny either that now we are seeing a lot more japanese games jumping on next gen (specifically in the PS4) more than ever in the same time period on the 7th gen.

yes he maybe exagerating but he does have a point the PS4 succes has helped in spawning a reappearance of JRPGs (or simply japanese games) in CONSOLES

He said the savior of JRPGs. Period. That's like me saying a restaurant was the savior of the cheeseburger

This is a thread about the PS4, what is the PS4?...

answer: its a console, therefore one would assume that in this context he is talking about consoles and not handhelds.

when people say stuff they normally say it in some sort of context and right here that context is in terms of consoles given the fact that the PS4 is a console, thats how i read it and according to him thats exactly what he meant.

I know you didn't, I was just saying.

The comment just seemed off, that's all. It didn't seem like he was just talking about consoles to me, so if he was, that's my mistake and I apologize.

no need to apologize, (ive made bigger mistakes in the past) plus i normally like your posts, so to be honest i didnt wanted to argue with you to begin with.

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Ryng on 18 April 2015

Manlytears said:

Ryng_Tolu said:
Well, even if the last two month PS4 have sold nice, don't forget that PS4 is still below DreamCast lifetime.

Any way, PS4 will probabily sell 5,000,000 / 6,000,000 lifetime...

Not bad for a home console in Japan, or bad for the PS4 performance Globally... depend.

5,000,000 to 6,000,000? For real? Sorry, but you are talking about a console that is destroying the competition in japan and aroud the world. Ps4 momentum just begun, it lauched in japan for barely 1 year.

Even considering that japanese market got smaller, i'm sure that P4 will easily surpass these 6,000,000 mark in the next 4-5 years, and whit a good lifecycle of 7-9 years, Ps4 will most likely hit Ps3 mark of 10,000,000, maybe even surpass Ps3...

Well, that is my prediction:

2014: 1,000,000

2015: 1,200,000

2016: 1,000,000

2017: 800,000

2018: 600,000

2019: 300,000 (PS5 released)

Other 300,000/400,000 in 2020 to 2025

So yeah, my actually PS4 prediction is 5,200,000 / 5,300,000 ...

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Skullwaker on 18 April 2015

estebxx said:
no need to apologize, (ive made bigger mistakes in the past) plus i normally like your posts, so to be honest i didnt wanted to argue with you to begin with.

Hey, if I'm being an idiot, I want someone to call me out on it, lol. I appreciate when people are upfront with me. No harm done.

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