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Forums - Gaming Discussion - Microsoft Didn’t ‘Listen’ To Fans About Kinect

I gotta say that this piece is very well written and that I encourage anyone who comments here to read it:

http://www.gamefront.com/microsoft-hasnt-listened-on-kinect/

He brings up interesting comparisons to the Wii and Oculus as well as kinect.



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Its pretty much the same thing
Customers told ms wat they wanted by buying a ps4.



I thought this was clear. Companies are only listening to numbers. If their decisiobns aligh with those of the customers it's coincidental.



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Azerth said:
Its pretty much the same thing
Customers told ms wat they wanted by buying a ps4.

They've been quite deaf then considering how many PS4s its customers had to buy for them to notice.



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Two things that jump right away for me:

First, I love the whole "anti-customer policies." Funny how people have a double standard. Those same "anti-customer policies" apply to all software in PCs/Macs/tablet etc. My guess is that people don't mind as much on these because you can always illegally download whatever you want (not on tablets tho but they're not there yet). And how come no one has talked about how the PS4 initial install showing DRM policies too? Hm, go figure fan base.

Second, Kinect has been worth it. Those of us that own a Xbox One have learned that it is actually amazing. Not perfect, but it has changed quite a bit how we interact with our entertainment systems. Sadly, the people that have not used Kinect are also the loudest about not wanting it. Go figure!

Anyway, rant off. Now, let's hear what the other 90% of users on this site say about this article (which mind you, are probably PS fans only). This will be a constructive and unbiased discussion.



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vivster said:
Azerth said:
Its pretty much the same thing
Customers told ms wat they wanted by buying a ps4.

They've been quite deaf then considering how many PS4s its customers had to buy for them to notice.


I wouldn't say they're deaf. This was a major decision and one that shouldn't be taken lightly or made quickly. MS spent a lot of money on the Kinect so to abadon it is not a big deal. MS can make up all the excuses they want about how this wont hurt the Kinect but they aren't fooling anyone but the most guillible people. It was a smart move of them to wait until after Titan Fall to make sure they should remove the kinect.



Azerth said:
Its pretty much the same thing
Customers told ms wat they wanted by buying a ps4.


this.

i dont get this article, it seems to say that "we" and "the consumer" are not the same people. yes, MS decided to remove kinect bacuse of the sales numbers, but thats the best indication of what the market actually wants. they did listen to the most relaible source of what comsumers want, sales numbers. Microsoft shouldnt be discredited because they did something the market want.

Yes microsoft changed removed the kinect because of sales, by doing that its proof that they actually listened to what the market wants, not the other way around. 



Soonerman said:
Two things that jump right away for me:

First, I love the whole "anti-customer policies." Funny how people have a double standard. Those same "anti-customer policies" apply to all software in PCs/Macs/tablet etc. My guess is that people don't mind as much on these because you can always illegally download whatever you want (not on tablets tho but they're not there yet). And how come no one has talked about how the PS4 initial install showing DRM policies too? Hm, go figure fan base.

Second, Kinect has been worth it. Those of us that own a Xbox One have learned that it is actually amazing. Not perfect, but it has changed quite a bit how we interact with our entertainment systems. Sadly, the people that have not used Kinect are also the loudest about not wanting it. Go figure!

Anyway, rant off. Now, let's hear what the other 90% of users on this site say about this article (which mind you, are probably PS fans only). This will be a constructive and unbiased discussion.


So what are we supposed to do get mad at Sony cause they thought about using DRM? The point is they didn't and they didn't go on to try and force it on us when clearly no one wanted it. They didn't go on to be completely jerk and putting down their fan base and anyone who disagreed with their policies.

Kinect has been worth it to you should be the real statement. Kinect does so some cool stuff unforunately none of it is cool enough to jusitfy paying another $100 to most people. I don't need to talk to my PS4 to get it on I'm fine using my remote that's the only voice command I would use because I don't have cable TV I watch everything on my media server/htpc.



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bananaking21 said:
Azerth said:
Its pretty much the same thing
Customers told ms wat they wanted by buying a ps4.


this.

i dont get this article, it seems to say that "we" and "the consumer" are not the same people. yes, MS decided to remove kinect bacuse of the sales numbers, but thats the best indication of what the market actually wants. they did listen to the most relaible source of what comsumers want, sales numbers. Microsoft shouldnt be discredited because they did something the market want.

Yes microsoft changed removed the kinect because of sales, by doing that its proof that they actually listened to what the market wants, not the other way around. 

This, although listening to market pressure is a bit different from listening to people.

Listening is when you do something freely, capitulating is when you have to do something you don't want due to uncomfortable pressure.

When a kid finally does his homework after you threaten "You are grounded until you do your homework", you're not going to pat him on the back for listening.



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