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Arkaign said:
Sharpryno said:
All I know is that the Halo MCC bundle will dominate all bundle sales in November and December.


Nope, Halo MCC will sell like hotcakes to existing XB1 owners, but the hardcore Xbox fanbase is already on board with their XB1s.

It's the Titanfall effect all over again, only this time perhaps even less so (exciting new IP vs. rehashed old games that are played out).

No HD remake has a shot at doing much of anything this gen other than serving as filler. Not TLOU, not GTAV, not Halo, nothing. People want new games, not old crap reheated. The most successful rehashes will sell 1-2M. Halo 1 HD got to what, 3M on a massive install base after YEARS of availability? Meh.

The only shot a MCC bundle has at major sales is if it's $299, or if it's basically the default SKU for sale at the time (eg; there's no 'vanilla' XB1 available for less money). Which is why Titanfall bundles sold, they were $50 less than buying the XB1 with no game, and for a long time that was the only SKU you saw in stores (As they reskinned unsold consoles to try to get them moving).

I have a lot of Halo friends that have still not bought a next gen console.  They were going to wait until Halo 5, but some say the Halo MCC is too good to be true and plan to upgrade then.  



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roivas2 said:
TheDrill said:
Second week of X1 outselling PS4 in USA.


Hate to break it to you, but PS4 won USA last week.

Not the numbers I saw, unless it got readjusted towards the end of the week. 



Sharpryno said:
roivas2 said:
TheDrill said:
Second week of X1 outselling PS4 in USA.


Hate to break it to you, but PS4 won USA last week.

Not the numbers I saw, unless it got readjusted towards the end of the week. 

I doubt they adjust numbers that quickly, it usually takes them at least a month. I don't know if it were like this originally, but PS4 is at 39K, and X1 at 38.2K, and that was a price drop week.

But still, all these weekly numbers are just guesses, US market can be rightfully judged only by monthly NPD numbers. 



This week I find more believable that XBO surpassed PS4 because of the price drop. I'm still waiting to see the NPDs so my trust on VGC can be restored.



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Arkaign said:
prinz_valium said:

just wait for holiday season to see this thread come true

 

edit: the catch up will start at that point

outsell will hapen later.

ltd overtake holiday 2015

Hahahaha, 2015 the XB1 has literally zero chance of catching up. That's when all the huge IPs start rolling out, and multiplats will always favor PS4. Do you think masses of gamers will clamor to play the inferior versions? 2015 will be even worse for the XB1 than 2014 has been. XB1's best two months were the first two due to the hardcore fanbase jumping in (who would have bought a RROD 360 that was melted, if the box said 'Xbox One!!!!11111oneoneoneone!'). 

All they can do is balance how terribly they do with 'okay' US/UK numbers. They're dead in Europe, Japan is useless to them, China is a mistake, and most of their games aren't even coming out until 2016.

The die is set, XB1 is at best a 2nd-place console. At this point you should wonder if they will catch WiiU in 2015. PS4 is gone like the wind.


hahahahahahahahahah

 

have u seen halo 5 and quantum break? possible forza 6 and crackdown 3

+ maybe even more?

 

and its not only about games.

end of 2015 will be shrink and prizecut time

the time for many "not so hardcore" xbox fans to move from 360 to xbox one

and as u know 360 outsold ps3 2:1 in the us. to make the ps4 stay ahead about 25% of 360 owner have to move to ps4 instead of xbox one.

thats not an easy no doubt achivement for sony...

were talking about the us not mainland europe or rest of the world

 

 

 

and ofc many games will play the inferior multiplats. just like many did on theire ps3s



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Burek said:
Sharpryno said:

Not the numbers I saw, unless it got readjusted towards the end of the week. 

I doubt they adjust numbers that quickly, it usually takes them at least a month. I don't know if it were like this originally, but PS4 is at 39K, and X1 at 38.2K, and that was a price drop week.

But still, all these weekly numbers are just guesses, US market can be rightfully judged only by monthly NPD numbers. 

Use the comparison charts,  set it up weekly and US numbers.   The numbers for the 14th have been adjusted and the ps4 is ontop :)



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Sharpryno said:
roivas2 said:
TheDrill said:
Second week of X1 outselling PS4 in USA.


Hate to break it to you, but PS4 won USA last week.

Not the numbers I saw, unless it got readjusted towards the end of the week. 


Ive noticed that they tend to do adjustments when they put up the next weeks numbers.  the #'s for the 14ths were adjusted having the PS4 now ontop by 1k



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prinz_valium said:
Arkaign said:
prinz_valium said:

just wait for holiday season to see this thread come true

 

edit: the catch up will start at that point

outsell will hapen later.

ltd overtake holiday 2015

Hahahaha, 2015 the XB1 has literally zero chance of catching up. That's when all the huge IPs start rolling out, and multiplats will always favor PS4. Do you think masses of gamers will clamor to play the inferior versions? 2015 will be even worse for the XB1 than 2014 has been. XB1's best two months were the first two due to the hardcore fanbase jumping in (who would have bought a RROD 360 that was melted, if the box said 'Xbox One!!!!11111oneoneoneone!'). 

All they can do is balance how terribly they do with 'okay' US/UK numbers. They're dead in Europe, Japan is useless to them, China is a mistake, and most of their games aren't even coming out until 2016.

The die is set, XB1 is at best a 2nd-place console. At this point you should wonder if they will catch WiiU in 2015. PS4 is gone like the wind.


hahahahahahahahahah

 

have u seen halo 5 and quantum break? possible forza 6 and crackdown 3

+ maybe even more?

 

and its not only about games.

end of 2015 will be shrink and prizecut time

the time for many "not so hardcore" xbox fans to move from 360 to xbox one

and as u know 360 outsold ps3 2:1 in the us. to make the ps4 stay ahead about 25% of 360 owner have to move to ps4 instead of xbox one.

thats not an easy no doubt achivement for sony...

were talking about the us not mainland europe or rest of the world

 

 

 

and ofc many games will play the inferior multiplats. just like many did on theire ps3s


Yea we will meet a year later and I still think ps4 is the best console gaiming device. 



TheDrill said:
roivas2 said:
TheDrill said:
Second week of X1 outselling PS4 in USA.


Hate to break it to you, but PS4 won USA last week.


Doesn't matter, X1 is still doing great.

It does matter,  your prediction says the XB1 will catch up soon.  It is IMPOSSIBLE to catch up if it is not selling more per week than the ps4.

you really need to start examining what you have said in this thread,  what we told you in response, and what eventually proved to be true.   You started this whole thread based on bad VGC numbers.  We all told you they were wrong and needed adjusting.  everytime VGC posts new numbers that have the xb1 on top you come in here and start saying how you are right and the xb1 will catch up.  Again we all come in here, respond to you how the numbers are wrong and will be adjusted.  You fight the fight, but in the end the numbers are adjusted and the PS4 goes back ontop for those weeks.  it must have happened 10 times now atleast.  

And just to put this weeks numbers into perspective,  What has xb1 differently this last week, than it did the week it was launching a price reduced console.  The numbers for the 14th  should have all the preorders from bundles, it should be its strongest week of the month.  Yet somehow its managed to sell 5k more units for the 21st.

you need to stop making these predictions and statements off of numbers that we all know will be changed.



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prinz_valium said:


hahahahahahahahahah

 

have u seen halo 5 and quantum break? possible forza 6 and crackdown 3

+ maybe even more?

 

and its not only about games.

end of 2015 will be shrink and prizecut time

the time for many "not so hardcore" xbox fans to move from 360 to xbox one

and as u know 360 outsold ps3 2:1 in the us. to make the ps4 stay ahead about 25% of 360 owner have to move to ps4 instead of xbox one.

thats not an easy no doubt achivement for sony...

were talking about the us not mainland europe or rest of the world

 

 

 

and ofc many games will play the inferior multiplats. just like many did on theire ps3s

And the PS2 outsold the original XB by what 10:1 or 20:1? And that meant what? Nothing....the US is indeed not mainland europe which seems to be Sony land. The US has no loyal fanbase they move and go with the flow. Point being you can't use a previous gen to determine the sales of the following gen ESPECIALLY when talking about the US.

As for the rest of your points I agree wit MS will more than likely do a $50 or so pricecut next year and the XB1 has some great games lined up for the next year as well. 2015 will be a great year game wise for both the XB1 and the PS4!



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