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starcraft on 05 June 2014

Every body in this thread needs to take a chill pill. Aura and The Drill in particular (consider this an informal warning).

Also, the next person to post a ridiculous quote tree in this thread gets a ban commensurate with the rest of their moderation history.

 



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Nicklesbe on 05 June 2014

Thanks for the warning starcraft. It was entertaining while it lasted. I know I certainly learned a lot. Saw some great and intelligently laid out arguments as well. So thanks everyone for that. You know who you are. Oh hey starcraft, I have a serious question that is mostly off-topic. Your name inspired the question. Do you think some form of starcraft will make it's way to next gen consoles? I would love to see something like that at e3. You even think that would be possible?



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DonFerrari on 05 June 2014
TheDrill said:
DonFerrari said:
What I get from latest post is that theDrill have changed from X1 will definetely pass Ps4 to X1 will keep a good marketshare not trailing much behind.

Percentages and totals may or may not matter.

At the beggining of the gen MS needs a good marketshare to keep support let's say at total 20M for ps4+x1 9m:11m will give them good support (45:55%).

At the end of the gen a total 200M with ps4 150M and X1 50M even tough the difference is 100M and marketshare is 75:25% X1 would have a big enough base to not be ignored.

But of course in both cases securing exclusives will be exponentialy harder and this will only make the gap grow bigger.
But I would say theDrill accepting it won't be easy for x1 to pass ps4 is a nice start. It just took 500 posts for him to start seeing the light while some members after hundred thousands posts still keep in denial of the truth.

 

At the time I made this prediction the difference between X1 sold and PS4 sold was actually 10 % people are laughing now telling me how I stealthy changed it later to 13 % and now it's almost 17 %, but at the time it was 10 %, and it's not unreasonable to assume that a price cut would increase sales.

I haven't expected the gap to widen that much, and I'm still skeptical about last weeks numbers, but it seems that the gap is still growing wider.

I assume that the PS4 sales will slow down, or stay the same, especailly since they decreased a bit during TitanFall sales, and seem to decrease worldide as well.

Either way, the X1 is still holding strong in US, and in the UK, especailly compared to other territories.

It outsold the Wii U worldwide, and I still think it will claim a good chunk of the marketshare in the US and the UK, it will canibalize out of the PS4 dominance, it won't be like in Europe or Japan.

How much the price cut will do will yet be seen, but X1 is still strong in USA despite being outsold by the PS4.

De difference never have been 10%. And if you said X1 MAY or COULD outsell ps4 no one disagree on that, but you said as if it was certain and backed your information on fault VGC data, and worst you denied that NPD is more accurate, and in the other thread now you are saying VGC is wrong (your choices always in favour of X1).

It was 3.5M against 3.0 M that is .5/3 which means 16% but you preffered to invert to .5/3.5 to make it 14% and then rounded down to 10% to make it seem smaller (when you made the thread this was already official info on NPD + current month on VGC).

Then you said that 10k peer week would make X1 pass PS4 really fast while that would take 1 year of sales at 500k difference.

Ps4 decreased, but X1 decreased faster. On titanfall month PS4 still outsold X1 handsomely, and last month PS4 was 2:1 in USA, and this week 4:1... so that shows that your prediction was based on hopefull thoughs not hard data... and that was why no one could take you seriously.

We have guys here with 30k posts, long history of prediction and even then get some wrong, but you were discussing with this kind of guys disregarding all the logic they put because you wanted to believe X1 would pass PS4, and post this thread as "PROOF" that X1 will pass PS4.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Nicklesbe on 05 June 2014

Oh noe DonFerrari oh noe >.<



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starcraft on 05 June 2014
Nicklesbe said:
Thanks for the warning starcraft. It was entertaining while it lasted. I know I certainly learned a lot. Saw some great and intelligently laid out arguments as well. So thanks everyone for that. You know who you are. Oh hey starcraft, I have a serious question that is mostly off-topic. Your name inspired the question. Do you think some form of starcraft will make it's way to next gen consoles? I would love to see something like that at e3. You even think that would be possible?

There have been rumours for a while about Starcraft 2 landing on consoles.

Didn't really work for the N64 though



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DonFerrari on 05 June 2014
Nicklesbe said:
Thanks for the warning starcraft. It was entertaining while it lasted. I know I certainly learned a lot. Saw some great and intelligently laid out arguments as well. So thanks everyone for that. You know who you are. Oh hey starcraft, I have a serious question that is mostly off-topic. Your name inspired the question. Do you think some form of starcraft will make it's way to next gen consoles? I would love to see something like that at e3. You even think that would be possible?


Have you also learnt how someone can ignore 500 arguments?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari on 05 June 2014
Nicklesbe said:

Oh noe DonFerrari oh noe >.<


Since you are new to the site and may not know to quote someone hit the quote button so the person will know they have a comment answered and waiting reading.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Nicklesbe on 05 June 2014

I know how to quote just fine thanks. The problem is you missed the mod warning about long quote trees..which you proceeded to post afterwards..which is why I said oh noe..because I feared you would get a ban hammer..which I hope you don't. So forgive me if I avoid quote trees after being directed to do so by starcraft..



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GribbleGrunger on 05 June 2014
Nicklesbe said:

I know how to quote just fine thanks. The problem is you missed the mod warning about long quote trees..which you proceeded to post afterwards..which is why I said oh noe..because I feared you would get a ban hammer..which I hope you don't. So forgive me if I avoid quote trees after being directed to do so by starcraft..

You can still quote just the one you are answering. Just click on the line until it's blue and then delete.



 

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TheDrill on 06 June 2014
DonFerrari said:
TheDrill said:
DonFerrari said:
What I get from latest post is that theDrill have changed from X1 will definetely pass Ps4 to X1 will keep a good marketshare not trailing much behind.

Percentages and totals may or may not matter.

At the beggining of the gen MS needs a good marketshare to keep support let's say at total 20M for ps4+x1 9m:11m will give them good support (45:55%).

At the end of the gen a total 200M with ps4 150M and X1 50M even tough the difference is 100M and marketshare is 75:25% X1 would have a big enough base to not be ignored.

But of course in both cases securing exclusives will be exponentialy harder and this will only make the gap grow bigger.
But I would say theDrill accepting it won't be easy for x1 to pass ps4 is a nice start. It just took 500 posts for him to start seeing the light while some members after hundred thousands posts still keep in denial of the truth.

 

At the time I made this prediction the difference between X1 sold and PS4 sold was actually 10 % people are laughing now telling me how I stealthy changed it later to 13 % and now it's almost 17 %, but at the time it was 10 %, and it's not unreasonable to assume that a price cut would increase sales.

I haven't expected the gap to widen that much, and I'm still skeptical about last weeks numbers, but it seems that the gap is still growing wider.

I assume that the PS4 sales will slow down, or stay the same, especailly since they decreased a bit during TitanFall sales, and seem to decrease worldide as well.

Either way, the X1 is still holding strong in US, and in the UK, especailly compared to other territories.

It outsold the Wii U worldwide, and I still think it will claim a good chunk of the marketshare in the US and the UK, it will canibalize out of the PS4 dominance, it won't be like in Europe or Japan.

How much the price cut will do will yet be seen, but X1 is still strong in USA despite being outsold by the PS4.

De difference never have been 10%. And if you said X1 MAY or COULD outsell ps4 no one disagree on that, but you said as if it was certain and backed your information on fault VGC data, and worst you denied that NPD is more accurate, and in the other thread now you are saying VGC is wrong (your choices always in favour of X1).

It was 3.5M against 3.0 M that is .5/3 which means 16% but you preffered to invert to .5/3.5 to make it 14% and then rounded down to 10% to make it seem smaller (when you made the thread this was already official info on NPD + current month on VGC).

Then you said that 10k peer week would make X1 pass PS4 really fast while that would take 1 year of sales at 500k difference.

Ps4 decreased, but X1 decreased faster. On titanfall month PS4 still outsold X1 handsomely, and last month PS4 was 2:1 in USA, and this week 4:1... so that shows that your prediction was based on hopefull thoughs not hard data... and that was why no one could take you seriously.

We have guys here with 30k posts, long history of prediction and even then get some wrong, but you were discussing with this kind of guys disregarding all the logic they put because you wanted to believe X1 would pass PS4, and post this thread as "PROOF" that X1 will pass PS4.


On the particular day when I made this particular prediction at that time it was indeed 10 % , trust me.