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AZWification said:
TheBlackNaruto said:
AZWification said:

OK... This thread has passed 1000 posts.... You can lock it now, mods! >_>


NO!!!! I need this thread to stay alive lol. Seriously it is quite entertaining. 

Eh.. Seeing the OP get destroyed the first few times was fun, bu now it's getting sad...


I am not getting destroyed, you guys are not realizing how early into this generation we are.



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TheDrill said:
DD_Bwest said:

i am finding it very hard not to say anything that would get me banned at this point. if MS won NPD, they would have said so with a mega phone. we have the numbers, they have been leaked better that any month in a while, we have seen EXACTLY what the numbers were. It wasnt close, and it most certainly didnt win.

a smart person would have admitted they were wrong and ask a mod for it to be locked


You all seem to forget the following facts:

 

1) It's not even 1 year of this generation

2) X1 doesn't have a full month on sales since the price cut

3) X1 is very strong in USA and the total sales between X1 and PS4 are very close in the US

4) The price cut alone got X1 close to or slightly more to PS4 sales.

5) My prediction includes the time from this price cut and is long term, it wasn't X1 will outsell PS4 1 months only in the US.

 

 

1) Saying it hasn't even been a year means nothing, because it in no way proves that the PS4's lead in the U.S. won't simply be even bigger. In fact, given many of the Xbox One's most-touted momentum-shifting moves and strategies have failed to help it outsell the PS4 at all this year, all indications suggest that the Xbox One will continue to be outsold by the PS4 for the next four out of six months, at least. Especially given Sony is far more likely to have a stronger showing than Microsoft at Gamescom and TGS, which just means more tasty PR and buzz for them, keeping the 'Hop On PS4' train in full motion throughout the summer, and into the fall.

2) PS4 didn't have a price cut at all. No super special hyper game releases, NOTHING to counteract the pent-up orders of the new Xbox One Kinect, meaning that not only did it beat the Xbox One, it beat the Xbox One with less reasons to beat it. It beat the Xbox One purely on the strength, as odd as this sounds, of being a PS4. Not only that, but considering the Xbox One's 399$ SKU sales were probably top heavy- meaning LOTS of week-one sales and pre-orders being picked up- July's NPD is liable to have an even worse weekly sales average for the Xbox One than June's.

3) True, they are closeish, BUT closing them means, eventually, turning the tide. No matter how close the gap is, it doesn't matter if it looks like Sony is going to spend at least two-thirds of this year widening it.

4) ....no, no it didn't. It got less. It got, outright, more than twenty percent less, which while not as massive a difference as the way it was probably getting obliterated in May, still doesn't count as 'close.' It's akin to saying; "Guys! Guys! He gave me less bruises this time and I cried a bit less! I think that means I won!"

5) Your original post states, outright, that the Xbox One will have sold more than the PS4 by January 2015. OUTRIGHT. Meaning that by the end of New Years, by the time 2015 is in swing, Microsoft will be on top... meaning Microsoft will have already caught up during 2014.



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TheDrill said:


I am not getting destroyed, you guys are not realizing how early into this generation we are.


how come you dont take the time to back up your argument.  you have said multiple times the xb1 met or exceeded the ps4.  can you kindly show proof?

 

failure to do so will automatically result in you admitting you are wrong



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DD_Bwest said:


how come you dont take the time to back up your argument.  you have said multiple times the xb1 met or exceeded the ps4.  can you kindly show proof?

 

failure to do so will automatically result in you admitting you are wrong


you can check the X1 sales in the US in the last 4 weeks on the front page yourself.



TheDrill said:
DD_Bwest said:


how come you dont take the time to back up your argument.  you have said multiple times the xb1 met or exceeded the ps4.  can you kindly show proof?

 

failure to do so will automatically result in you admitting you are wrong


you can check the X1 sales in the US in the last 4 weeks on the front page yourself.

 

....aaand the significantly more reputable source whose numbers indicate that the PS4 outsold the Xbox One by an even wider margin than this site's own estimations claimed?



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I knew that PS4 would come out on top despite the removal of Kinect and TheDrill still denies the facts. MS did everything they could with the X1 from bundling the console with one of the most hyped games, giving unofficial pricecuts, taking out the Kinect, to now giving 360 users $75. Nothing is working.

Being outsold by 38% is not close at all, especially when X1's numbers include launch sales of the new SKU. Let's say we guestimate its baseline sales by taking the average of May and June. Baseline sales will be around 137k a month. That's still pretty bad when the PS4 tends to average around 225k a month. If we go by these numbers, the X1 is being outsold by ~64%, which is a big number.

And you're right, TheDrill, this is only the beginning of this generation. It is the beginning of the worse to come for the X1. This year, the PS4 is getting TLOU Remastered, Guilty Gears Xrd -SIGN-, Natural Doctrine, Driveclub, and Destiny. X1 has nothing to counter the PS4 this summer and early fall. Driveclub will compete with FH2 and Halo MCC is mostly bought by people who already have the system. 2015 may became a bloodbath if MS doesn't do anything drastic. Bloodborne, Uncharted 4, Santa Monica's new IP, Guerilla Games' new IP, Media Molecule's new IP, MLB The Show 15, Guerrila Cambridge's new game, etc. There is just way too much for MS to counter.



TheDrill said:
DD_Bwest said:


how come you dont take the time to back up your argument.  you have said multiple times the xb1 met or exceeded the ps4.  can you kindly show proof?

 

failure to do so will automatically result in you admitting you are wrong


you can check the X1 sales in the US in the last 4 weeks on the front page yourself.

Why are you telling us to look up "data" of a non-credible source? Didn't I tell you to look up the PDF of NPD's methodology earlier in this thread? PS4 outsold the X1 by 72k in June. Period.

And because you failed to back up your argument, you're admitting that you are wrong according to DD_Bwest. You are in no position to debate this.



TheDrill said:
DD_Bwest said:


how come you dont take the time to back up your argument.  you have said multiple times the xb1 met or exceeded the ps4.  can you kindly show proof?

 

failure to do so will automatically result in you admitting you are wrong


you can check the X1 sales in the US in the last 4 weeks on the front page yourself.


And those numbers will be changed to closely match the leaked NPD numbers in the next 7 days. Happens every month without fail. 



Aura7541 said:
TheDrill said:
DD_Bwest said:


how come you dont take the time to back up your argument.  you have said multiple times the xb1 met or exceeded the ps4.  can you kindly show proof?

 

failure to do so will automatically result in you admitting you are wrong


you can check the X1 sales in the US in the last 4 weeks on the front page yourself.

Why are you telling us to look up "data" of a non-credible source? Didn't I tell you to look up the PDF of NPD's methodology earlier in this thread? PS4 outsold the X1 by 72k in June. Period.

 

I am literally starting to fall under the impression that he sort of just ignores you unless you say something dismissing him personally/insulting/whichever. o.O Seen a couple of times that whenever someone tries saying 'Okay, Imma level with you, here's reasons yadayadayadayadayada, now please, feel free to respond with your counter-points,' he flat out ignores them, or sometimes responds with single-phrase insistences that he is right for 'reasons.' Starting to see how this thread lasted so long if he's avoiding spirited debate like the plague. Saw the same techniques in the Flat Earth Society forums.

(I wish I were joking. -_- )



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TheDrill said:
DD_Bwest said:


how come you dont take the time to back up your argument.  you have said multiple times the xb1 met or exceeded the ps4.  can you kindly show proof?

 

failure to do so will automatically result in you admitting you are wrong


you can check the X1 sales in the US in the last 4 weeks on the front page yourself.


congradualations you just lost.    weve been over this a hundred times from people on many different sides.  those numbers are ALWAYS crap.   they always get adjusted.   even the mods will tell you NPD is right,    it is the tracking service used by the 3 companies, the same ones that for years told the story of the 360 winning,    there isnt some big conspiracy.

 

you continue to ignore this,  and until you do, you sit with the same people who think aliens built the pyramids



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