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Hynad said:
setsunatenshi said:
Hynad said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Wait...so do you mean to tell me that RROD wasnt worse than Sony pricing the PS3 at $600? At one point amassing a failure rate of 60% of consoles sold. The box had to be completely redesigned.  It took five years for Microsoft launch to proper console. Everything comes before the consumer with them. People ask me why consumers buy products from other countries, I  just say..."quality". 

Phil Spencer is trying to turn things around. I understand this truth, but with jackasses like Yusuf Medhi running around, I think I have the right to hold my opinion. Someone needs to shut him up just like did Orth. 

Who cares who did better or worse? Mistakes are mistakes. But, what does it change in your life? You're pointing a finger at stuff that are now in the past. And the question I ask is: Why? Why do you constantly talk shit about MS and XBox? What do you have to gain with this attiutude of yours? 

who cares? we, the consumer, do care.

after what MS tried to pull last year, do you think you get back on the good side of gamers just like this? the only reason why MS reversed their policies was because people were vocal about things. now you are complaining about a consumer being vocal online?

you're asking what does it change in his life, maybe the fact that we don't have to play with daily online checks, that cameras aren't deemed mandatory to be connected while you use the consoles, the fact you can lend your friends your games or even buy used copies... now even finally MS being forced to admit PS plus was an embarassingly supperior value than Live, making them offer the games with gold program and removing the apps from the paywall.

if you don't want to make your voice heard, that's fine, but don't complain about other people taking the time to be vocal and defend their interests

Funny how it's almost exclusively people who don't have much interest for XBox consoles who complain and make a big deal out of this.

People complained about what MS was proposing. And they worked to make the proper changes. Now that they did, you're telling me that it's justified to keep going on and whine like little kids about what was before, instead of being glad that they did change most of what was wrong and move on? Your voice was heard. What's more to be heard about now? They've made the proper changes. They listened.

Are you going to whine about how things would have been if they hadn't listened for the remainded of this gen, or will you accept that they listend and move on and enjoy gaming?

YES

You don't just let it go the moment they say oops, we're losing money... we take it back. They have to understand there's a consequence to trying this type of BS moves so that by the next time they will know better.

And to be honest there's 2 sides to this subject, while 1 company tried to completely screw you, the other one was actively working against those shitty policies, so it's not so much of a keep beating Xbox down but more of a continuous pat on the back to Sony for sticking with us.

IF... MS would like to get some good will, instead of buying exclusivity of multiplatform games, they would instead use that money to produce their own exclusives, there would be a lot of good will towards that move. As it is you can be damn sure they haven't learned the lesson yet.

There are reasons why they get the bad reputation they have... they managed to gather it for the last years on their very own.



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setsunatenshi said:

YES

You don't just let it go the moment they say oops, we're losing money... we take it back. They have to understand there's a consequence to trying this type of BS moves so that by the next time they will know better.

And to be honest there's 2 sides to this subject, while 1 company tried to completely screw you, the other one was actively working against those shitty policies, so it's not so much of a keep beating Xbox down but more of a continuous pat on the back to Sony for sticking with us.

IF... MS would like to get some good will, instead of buying exclusivity of multiplatform games, they would instead use that money to produce their own exclusives, there would be a lot of good will towards that move. As it is you can be damn sure they haven't learned the lesson yet.

There are reasons why they get the bad reputation they have... they managed to gather it for the last years on their very own.

It would also help if they were proactively doing things for gamer's, and good for the industry, as opposed to every move they make (so far) being reactive to negative press.  You can't tell me they discussed everything they had planned thus far this gen, with a focus group who agreed whole-heartedly with DRM, always online, Kinect etc...  Given the publics response, it's impossible to even suggest such a thing.