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Jon-Erich on 08 May 2014
curl-6 said:
Good.
That's how Sega died; pulling the plug on the struggling Saturn too soon and burning their core fanbase.

It's not just that. SEGA faithfuls supported the Sega CD and they killed that early. They were tricked into buying the 32X and that lasted about a year. These Genesis could have lasted another year or two, but they pulled the plug on that. With the Saturn, SEGA kind of bankrupted themselves and they had to kill that off early, although I still believe that the US and Europe should have gotten Dreamcast before Japan since Saturn sales were still good in Japan.



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superchunk on 08 May 2014
Soundwave said:


lol, "limited" in what sense, my Best Buy has like a mini-mountain of unsold Skylanders Wii U bundles and we're well into May. They even cut the price down to $239.99 (I think it was even $219.99 for a couple of weeks). 

They were limited. They are not making new ones. THose are bundles that simply didn't sell from xmas. Kinda why they are so low in price.



superchunk on 08 May 2014
generic-user-1 said:
http://www.saturn.de/mcs/product/NINTENDO-Wii-U-Just-Dance-2014-Basic-Pack-wei%C3%9F---Nintendo-Land,48352,419220,1048218.html?langId=-3

the white one is alive.

I was referring to US. I have no clue about other smaller markets.

EDIT: oh and thats an old xmas bundle similar to the skylander one. Those are just left overs that didn't sell. I'm surprised this hasn't been discounted yet.



rolltide101x on 08 May 2014
superchunk said:

I'm going to basically repeat part of my OP as it completely answers your entire point.

EVEN WITH NO GAMES WII U IS NOW MAKING MONEY. That means if it sells 4m a year for the next two years, that is still a profitable venture even with a zero game attach rate. Of course that won't happen so they'll make really good money, especially when MK8 and SSB and more than like this new NFC figurine platform.

Fact is that it makes more sense to make money now on what is out there AND not piss off your actual paying customers while proving that you will always stand behind your products so others will hopefully jump in or definitely consider jumping in when you do decide to move on.

Its also absurd to think a console that requires the gamepad to fully work amd has a new game being shown at E3 to prove its gameplay value will be altered to release without a gamepad.

Wii U as is, with only possible change being increased memory/better battery for gamepad/more bundled game options... will remain as is for now.

Not the way it works in real life. Nintendo has way more costs involved with the Wii U than just the hardware. But I do not hope bad on the Wii U as I like the system. Nintendo made some smart decisions and some not so smart decisions with it



Soundwave on 08 May 2014
Jon-Erich said:
curl-6 said:
Good.
That's how Sega died; pulling the plug on the struggling Saturn too soon and burning their core fanbase.

It's not just that. SEGA faithfuls supported the Sega CD and they killed that early. They were tricked into buying the 32X and that lasted about a year. These Genesis could have lasted another year or two, but they pulled the plug on that. With the Saturn, SEGA kind of bankrupted themselves and they had to kill that off early, although I still believe that the US and Europe should have gotten Dreamcast before Japan since Saturn sales were still good in Japan.


Yes, so many people who use the Sega analogy don't even know what they're talking about. 32X had a lifespan of like 8 MONTHS before Sega pulled the rug out from under it, so don't compare that to the Wii U, not even close. 

Nintendo themselves has ended a very successful system in the GBA in about 3 years and suffered really no blow back from it. As long as the Wii U gets a 2D Mario, a 3D Mario, a DKC, a new Smash Bros., a new Zelda, a new Mario Kart, and then a host of support titles like Pikmin 3, Bayonetta 2, Yarn Yoshi, Wii Fit U, Wii Party U, Nintendo Land, Zelda: WWHD, X, etc. then I don't think Nintendo fans have much to complain about. 

Honestly by year end, the Wii U will be IMO be pretty close to the matching Nintendo's GameCube output, the main thing left to provide will be a new Zelda game. 

You had to know going in that the third party support was likely going to suck as it has for Nintendo consoles for the last 20 years so don't give a sob sad story about that. You knew what you were getting into when buying the thing. 



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Hedra42 on 08 May 2014
Soundwave said:
greenmedic88 said:
5 years of hard support is more or less what a company needs to provide to consumers to maintain goodwill when it comes to game consoles.

While the Wii U is never going to be a huge commercial success, it should bring some confidence to current owners and potential buyers that Nintendo won't resort to simply abandoning the platform.

2017 falls right in line with reasonable expectations and support.


Except that's really a load of crock honestly. 

The DS is Nintendo's most successful platform ever, and it came after cutting off the GBA after 3 1/2 years, and that was a faaaaaaaar more successful platform than the Wii U could ever dream of being. 

The XBox 360 is Microsoft's most successful console venture to date and that came after cutting off the XBox after 4 years. 

Even the Wii, Nintendo's most successful console came really after they basically abandoned the GameCube and left it for dead for most of 2005 and pretty much all of 2006. Mario Party 7 was their big holiday GameCube game for 2005, lol. They bailed out on that system, lets be honest.

Saying Nintendo supported the GameCube for a full 5 years is like saying a couple that was married for 5 years, but only lived together for maybe 3 1/2 of those years had a nice 5 year marriage. Only on paper. 

3 years is actually probably the minimum amount of support people want for a platform. Sega really screwed this because they released Sega CD in 1992, 32X in November 1994, and Saturn in April/May 1995. No one would've complained if the 32X got 3 years of support. 

Actually, the Gameboy Advance, the Gamecube and the Xbox all had far more than 5 years support. Neither the DS, X360 or Wii 'cut off' their predecessors at launch.

Gamecube 2001/2002 - 2007

GBA 2001 - 2006/7/8 (depending on region)

XBox 2001 - 2007/8.

A console is supported until it is discontinued, regardless of how many games are being released for it. Their successors might already have been released, but they were still being produced and sold and games were still available.

That the DS, X360 and Wii came in slightly earlier in their predecessor's lifecycles makes me think how much belief the companies had in their new products, because all went on to be a phenomenal success.



Faust on 08 May 2014

wii wasnt supposed to die back in 2012 either (even tho, it was already dead by 2011). Not saying that im expecting an early dead for the wii u, but we shouldnt take iwata's word as granted.



curl-6 on 08 May 2014
Faust said:
wii wasnt supposed to die back in 2012 either (even tho, it was already dead by 2011). Not saying that im expecting an early dead for the wii u, but we shouldnt take iwata's word as granted.

Blatantly false. Wii sold 16 million consoles after 2010.



DucksUnlimited on 08 May 2014
superchunk said:

EVEN WITH NO GAMES WII U IS NOW MAKING MONEY. That means if it sells 4m a year for the next two years, that is still a profitable venture even with a zero game attach rate. Of course that won't happen so they'll make really good money, especially when MK8 and SSB and more than like this new NFC figurine platform.for now.

Wait, are you saying that Nintendo will be making a profit from the Wii U overall as long as it's sold at a profit? Because that's not necessarily true...at all.



rolltide101x on 08 May 2014
curl-6 said:
Faust said:
wii wasnt supposed to die back in 2012 either (even tho, it was already dead by 2011). Not saying that im expecting an early dead for the wii u, but we shouldnt take iwata's word as granted.

Blatantly false. Wii sold 16 million consoles after 2010.

Yeah but you can not pretend that its support was not lackluster after 2010.