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2017?

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Pavolink said:
RolStoppable said:
Pavolink said:
trestres said:

In Japan, it's different. This was FY2013, as it went from April 2013 to March 2014.

I see. Still the possibility is there as FY2016 was mentioned in the OP.

No, trestres is wrong. Nintendo's fiscal year that just ended was 2014, so now it's already FY2015 for them. Meanwhile, Sony counts their fiscal years differently, so the same timeframe in calendar terms is one fiscal year behind (Sony is in fiscal year 2014 right now).

Is that right? Thanks.

Then FY2016 is too soon for a homeconsole as it's next year and FY 2017 seems more reasonable.

Rolstoppable is wrong, I've been checking everywhere and the FY number is the same as the year when it started in Japan.
Nintendo called this period Fiscal Year ENDED March 2014. Which is actually FY 2013.

But anyway, this is simply nomenclature.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiscal_year



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trestres said:

Rolstoppable is wrong, I've been checking everywhere and the FY number is the same as the year when it started in Japan.
Nintendo called this period Fiscal Year ENDED March 2014. Which is actually FY 2013.

But anyway, this is simply nomenclature.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiscal_year

I actually had the same impression as Rol. Other years they have the same.



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I still think Nintendo will release a redesigned Wii U this year - one without a gamepad.

Even if they are making profit on each console, it is no enough to sustain further R&D. And with such a small install base, even if each new game they release is a monster hit, they cannot sell more then 6 million copies.

I am excited to see what they do with NFP / NFC.



Soundwave said:
greenmedic88 said:
5 years of hard support is more or less what a company needs to provide to consumers to maintain goodwill when it comes to game consoles.

While the Wii U is never going to be a huge commercial success, it should bring some confidence to current owners and potential buyers that Nintendo won't resort to simply abandoning the platform.

2017 falls right in line with reasonable expectations and support.


Except that's really a load of crock honestly. 

The DS is Nintendo's most successful platform ever, and it came after cutting off the GBA after 3 1/2 years, and that was a faaaaaaaar more successful platform than the Wii U could ever dream of being. 

The XBox 360 is Microsoft's most successful console venture to date and that came after cutting off the XBox after 4 years. 

Even the Wii, Nintendo's most successful console came really after they basically abandoned the GameCube and left it for dead for most of 2005 and pretty much all of 2006. Mario Party 7 was their big holiday GameCube game for 2005, lol. They bailed out on that system, lets be honest.

Saying Nintendo supported the GameCube for a full 5 years is like saying a couple that was married for 5 years, but only lived together for maybe 3 1/2 of those years had a nice 5 year marriage. Only on paper. 

3 years is actually probably the minimum amount of support people want for a platform. Sega really screwed this because they released Sega CD in 1992, 32X in November 1994, and Saturn in April/May 1995. No one would've complained if the 32X got 3 years of support. 


The DS was intended as a "third pillar" and not a replacement for the GBA. The GBA. Was supported even after the launch of the DS. It wasn't until the DS took off that the Gamboy line was killed off.



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trestres said:
Pavolink said:
RolStoppable said:

No, trestres is wrong. Nintendo's fiscal year that just ended was 2014, so now it's already FY2015 for them. Meanwhile, Sony counts their fiscal years differently, so the same timeframe in calendar terms is one fiscal year behind (Sony is in fiscal year 2014 right now).

Is that right? Thanks.

Then FY2016 is too soon for a homeconsole as it's next year and FY 2017 seems more reasonable.

Rolstoppable is wrong, I've been checking everywhere and the FY number is the same as the year when it started in Japan.
Nintendo called this period Fiscal Year ENDED March 2014. Which is actually FY 2013.

But anyway, this is simply nomenclature.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiscal_year

Nintendo refers to a lot of things as FY Ending ___, whether in future or in retrospect.
Hence, on their consolidated sales documents available on their IR site they list FY3/2013 as the year that included most of 2012. The current FY in progress is FY3/2015.
It is just nomenclature but it's darned important to understand what the company means lest we be off by more than a year.

Edit: Visiting their IR site just now is the first I've seen them explicity refer to a year not by the month it ends. So maybe they are bringing in more of the usual nomenclature.



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This is all PR talk. Nintendo is planning to abandon it the second their quality of life crap is ready.



curl-6 said:
Skidonti said:
curl-6 said:
Soundwave said:

The Wii U honestly could by the end of 2015 will have pretty as good of an output as the GameCube did LTD.

Not even that long I'd say; it's almost there already, MK8 should push it over the edge in my view.


Whoah whoah! Hold your horses! You must not have liked GCN very much because to me WiiU ain't close yet! Give it 18 months.

I found GCN to be Nintendo's nadir.

They butchered Zelda, 3D Mario, and Starfox, overcomplicated Mario Kart, and Melee's one of the most overrated games in existence. Metroid Prime 1 & 2, RE4, and Twilight Princess were awesome, but they had superior Wii versions.

Mario Kart Double Dash!! Was easy as any Mario kart game, like Mario kart 8.

Zelda Wind Waker was taking advantage of stereoscopic 3D, but then Nintendo disable the 3D function just 1 to 3 months before the GameCube's Launch. Check out the 3D screenshots for Wind Waker (GameCube).

Super Mario Sunshine was the best Mario before Galaxy, unless you prefer Mario 3D Land/World or Mario 2D over Sunshine/Galaxy.

Melee & 64 are both a waste of time. So I agree there.



TarHeeLsALLday said:
This is all PR talk. Nintendo is planning to abandon it the second their quality of life crap is ready.


I've been only hearing that Quality of Life is just a Firmware Update for the 3DS to greatly increase its Battery Life.



Soundwave said:

In reality I think Nintendo will stop supporting the Wii U in a primary way once Zelda U comes out and 2015 wraps up. The system will chug its way to about 15-18 million owners and then just fade away. 

They'll support it through 2015 to keep the few fans that bought the system happy, but Nintendo's not in the habit of sinking tons of money into low-profit ventures either.

Like I said though, even with just the games we know about, through the end of 2015, the Wii U library from Nintendo's side compares very favorably to the entire 5 year run the GameCube had though ... so that should be enough for Nintendo to fulfil their obligation and move on to other greener pastures if they want to. 

I suspect projects that maybe would've rolled onto the Wii U in 2016/17 like a Super Mario Galaxy 3 have already been quietly moved to Nintendo's hybrid platform (though I suppose if its easy to port such a game to the Wii U, then maybe Wii U will get a port) behind the scenes. 

Zelda U comes out in 2016 or 2017.



BraveNewWorld said:
Soundwave said:
greenmedic88 said:
5 years of hard support is more or less what a company needs to provide to consumers to maintain goodwill when it comes to game consoles.

While the Wii U is never going to be a huge commercial success, it should bring some confidence to current owners and potential buyers that Nintendo won't resort to simply abandoning the platform.

2017 falls right in line with reasonable expectations and support.


Except that's really a load of crock honestly. 

The DS is Nintendo's most successful platform ever, and it came after cutting off the GBA after 3 1/2 years, and that was a faaaaaaaar more successful platform than the Wii U could ever dream of being. 

The XBox 360 is Microsoft's most successful console venture to date and that came after cutting off the XBox after 4 years. 

Even the Wii, Nintendo's most successful console came really after they basically abandoned the GameCube and left it for dead for most of 2005 and pretty much all of 2006. Mario Party 7 was their big holiday GameCube game for 2005, lol. They bailed out on that system, lets be honest.

Saying Nintendo supported the GameCube for a full 5 years is like saying a couple that was married for 5 years, but only lived together for maybe 3 1/2 of those years had a nice 5 year marriage. Only on paper. 

3 years is actually probably the minimum amount of support people want for a platform. Sega really screwed this because they released Sega CD in 1992, 32X in November 1994, and Saturn in April/May 1995. No one would've complained if the 32X got 3 years of support. 


The DS was intended as a "third pillar" and not a replacement for the GBA. The GBA. Was supported even after the launch of the DS. It wasn't until the DS took off that the Gamboy line was killed off.

GBA was barely supported with new software after 2004. Sure Nintendo coined the DS as a "third pillar" just in case it flopped so they could quietly kill it off if need be and bring out a proper Game Boy successor, just in case the PSP routed them out of the handheld biz.