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kupomogli on 03 May 2014

Most have that, if it's not from Nintendo it's not good mindset, even though the majority of Nintendo games they praise aren't very good in comparison.



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joel1989 on 03 May 2014
curl-6 said:
joel1989 said:

well i said sales =quality, not that it makes a game better then the other.the best way to see if the product is real quality, is looking at the way the sequel sales, if sales stay consistent or go higher, it means people really loved this product. for instants COD franshise people love the game, they have a blast playing online and buy the sequel, day one, even it's not my thing, i can see the product is quality that people enjoy. my main point is if a game is selling 4-6 million copies, its usually of very high quality.

That's contradicting yourself somewhat. What is quality if not a measure of what is "better"?

what is better is a matter of opinion. 



curl-6 on 03 May 2014
joel1989 said:
curl-6 said:
joel1989 said:

well i said sales =quality, not that it makes a game better then the other.the best way to see if the product is real quality, is looking at the way the sequel sales, if sales stay consistent or go higher, it means people really loved this product. for instants COD franshise people love the game, they have a blast playing online and buy the sequel, day one, even it's not my thing, i can see the product is quality that people enjoy. my main point is if a game is selling 4-6 million copies, its usually of very high quality.

That's contradicting yourself somewhat. What is quality if not a measure of what is "better"?

what is better is a matter of opinion. 

So is quality.



ICStats on 03 May 2014

In a nutshell, Wii U is not a great platform to play 3rd party games compared to others in terms of quality/features/price. Conversely other platforms are not great to play Nintendo 1st party games .



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joel1989 on 03 May 2014
curl-6 said:
joel1989 said:
curl-6 said:
joel1989 said:

well i said sales =quality, not that it makes a game better then the other.the best way to see if the product is real quality, is looking at the way the sequel sales, if sales stay consistent or go higher, it means people really loved this product. for instants COD franshise people love the game, they have a blast playing online and buy the sequel, day one, even it's not my thing, i can see the product is quality that people enjoy. my main point is if a game is selling 4-6 million copies, its usually of very high quality.

That's contradicting yourself somewhat. What is quality if not a measure of what is "better"?

what is better is a matter of opinion. 

So is quality.

ok thats why i said the best way to judge quality is by sales. take way the motion control stuiff from both 360 and wii, and look at the games that sold from 4 -30 million copies on consoles, they all have production values.



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curl-6 on 03 May 2014
joel1989 said:

ok thats why i said the best way to judge quality is by sales. take way the motion control stuiff from both 360 and wii, and look at the games that sold from 4 -30 million copies on consoles, they all have production values.

When you have to arbitrarily discount games to make your point, then the point itself's not very valid.



joel1989 on 03 May 2014
curl-6 said:
joel1989 said:

ok thats why i said the best way to judge quality is by sales. take way the motion control stuiff from both 360 and wii, and look at the games that sold from 4 -30 million copies on consoles, they all have production values.

When you have to arbitrarily discount games to make your point, then the point itself's not very valid.


yes i have to discount those games, they won't be made into franchises, nobody cares for there sequels. they are not the norm.



marley on 03 May 2014
joel1989 said:
marley said:
joel1989 said:
Zero999 said:

rayman sold in the same level as the ps3 version and it's 13x bigger installed base, the same for sonic all stars racing transformed. lego city - 750k, zombi u - 660k, monster hunter tri - 500k

Wii u owners buy 3rd party games, unless you want to say ps4/xone owners don't buy third party games, it's hipocrisy. because out od the top 10 it's pretty similar for the 3.

yes you named the only 3 third party games that sold over 500k  on wiiu, now compare that to ps4 thirdparty sales

 

The PS4 has a larger selection of better quality 3rd party titles.

just compare sales of the biggest franshises lke batman, AC4 and COD the ps4 is out selling the wiiu version by 10 to 1. so what your saying is not true at all, especially when you consider the wiiu got blops 2, ac3 and batman AA

Those games (and most major 3rd party games) have skipped Nintendo consoles for decades (or they were rushed ports).  Why would they have a userbase to sell too on Nintendo consoles?  Do you think it will just magically appear?  COD:MW3 on PS3 has outsold COD on PS2 10:1 as well.   Does that mean the PS2 gamers didn't like 3rd party games?  Of course not.  It just shows that Activision took the time and resources needed to create and nurture a userbase of COD gamers to sell to on Playstation consoles.


Why would a Nintendo gamer buy AC3, when they were never exposed to AC1 or AC2?  Why would they buy another CoD, when they have only been exposed to rushed gimped ports in the past?  3rd parties have done well in creating and nurturing a large market of gamers to sell to on Playstation consoles, but not on Nintendo consoles.  Any comparison in total sales numbers between these games is disingenuous at best. 



prayformojo on 03 May 2014
Poliwrathlord said:

Why do Wii U owners not buy 3rd party games? Seriously, why don't they? I think sales for a lot of 3rd party game are terrible. Here are some examples:

 

Injustice: Gods Among Us - .08 M. Global

Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Blacklist - .05 M. Global

Call of Duty: Ghosts - .15M Global

Even Rayman Legends, a game orginally made for WiI U and is the best experience on Wii U hasn't had to great of numbers:

Rayman Legends -.32 M. Global

 

I know that Nintendo Fans, myself included, prefer Nintendo games, but with the lack of Nintendo games on the Wii U why not buy these games.

By the way I have seven 3rd party games in my Wii U collection of sixteen games so I don't know if that makes me part of the problem.

 

 

 

 



 


Do you want to know why? It's because the majority of Wii-U owners have two consoles and use the other one for third party games. People buy Nintendo consoles these days to play Mario Kart. They play COD on PS4/Xbox.



joel1989 on 03 May 2014
marley said:
joel1989 said:
marley said:
joel1989 said:
Zero999 said:

rayman sold in the same level as the ps3 version and it's 13x bigger installed base, the same for sonic all stars racing transformed. lego city - 750k, zombi u - 660k, monster hunter tri - 500k

Wii u owners buy 3rd party games, unless you want to say ps4/xone owners don't buy third party games, it's hipocrisy. because out od the top 10 it's pretty similar for the 3.

yes you named the only 3 third party games that sold over 500k  on wiiu, now compare that to ps4 thirdparty sales

 

The PS4 has a larger selection of better quality 3rd party titles.

just compare sales of the biggest franshises lke batman, AC4 and COD the ps4 is out selling the wiiu version by 10 to 1. so what your saying is not true at all, especially when you consider the wiiu got blops 2, ac3 and batman AA

Those games (and most major 3rd party games) have skipped Nintendo consoles for decades (or they were rushed ports).  Why would they have a userbase to sell too on Nintendo consoles?  Do you think it will just magically appear?  COD:MW3 on PS3 has outsold COD on PS2 10:1 as well.   Does that mean the PS2 gamers didn't like 3rd party games?  Of course not.  It just shows that Activision took the time and resources needed to create and nurture a userbase of COD gamers to sell to on Playstation consoles.


Why would a Nintendo gamer buy AC3, when they were never exposed to AC1 or AC2?  Why would they buy another CoD, when they have only been exposed to rushed gimped ports in the past?  3rd parties have done well in creating and nurturing a large market of gamers to sell to on Playstation consoles, but not on Nintendo consoles.  Any comparison in total sales numbers between these games is disingenuous at best. 

and the reason nintendo fans haven't been exposed to those franshises is because nintendo made  the wii to weak to handle them. the result is third party's seeing the biggest franshises failing on wiiu, and that makes them not wanna support it, and i don't  blame them.