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Richard_Feynman on 30 April 2014

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Richard_Feynman on 30 April 2014
trixiemafia86 said:
J_Allard said:
I hope he sues the NBA and wins.

He is a racist piece of shit, but there is something wrong imho when a mans private conversation can be recorded and sold for profit and his private beliefs and comments can be used to basically make him give up his property. What he said was deplorable, but he believed he was having a private conversation. He didn't post this on Twitter, he didn't get drunk and tell it to a bunch of reporters in a hotel bar.

I completely agree with you here

That makes three of us.



Dark_Lord_2008 on 30 April 2014

Political correctness and censorship laws prosecutes super rich elitist. Despite being a billionaire you are not free to express views/opinions the majority of people oppose.



ArnoldRimmer on 30 April 2014

As much as I despise what he said and his opinions, I see absolutely no justification for that kind of punishment.

I believe that the conversation being leaked already was the perfect, sufficient and just "punishment". That has hurt him more than any money fine ever would.

Just like it is the case with other forms of intolerance (anti-semitism, general xenophobia etc.), harshly punishing racist remarks will never help adressing the actual problem, it just leads to people trying to disguise politically incorrect attitudes like intolerance in public.



badgenome on 30 April 2014
ArnoldRimmer said:
As much as I despise what he said and his opinions, I see absolutely no justification for that kind of punishment.

I believe that the conversation being leaked already was the perfect, sufficient and just "punishment". That has hurt him more than any money fine ever would.

Just like it is the case with other forms of intolerance (anti-semitism, general xenophobia etc.), harshly punishing racist remarks will never help adressing the actual problem, it just leads to people trying to disguise politically incorrect attitudes like intolerance in public.

Maybe, but this isn't about punishing him. If it were, they would have punished him for his previous racist behavior. This is about the NBA protecting itself and one of its franchises.



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Kasz216 on 30 April 2014
Zappykins said:
He has owned the team for like 30 years. This isn't exactly new information, just now really public.

There are many horrible people in the NBA.


It was to the NAACP of LA.  Who were going to give him a lifetime achivement award!

How they didn't do a google search first I'll never know.



Kasz216 on 30 April 2014
mornelithe said:
Kasz216 said:

The suspension isn't the part he can't really challenge in court. Now the forced selling of the team they are going to vote for... that one he could challenge pretty effectively because they'll have to prove that his racism hurt the entire league and not just the clippers.

He can probably win that one too.

 

I think however they're just hoping he'll take his billion and not fight it.  In the worst case though they can point and say "we tried to get rid of him".

Did you see that the NBA released it's previously 'secret' constitution/bylaws?  Two exerpts of note:

Article 24(I)

"The Commissioner shall, wherever there is a rule for which no penalty is specifically fixed for violation thereof, have the authority to fix such penalty as in the Commissioner's judgment shall be in the best interests of the Association. Where a situation arises which is not covered in the Constitution and By-Laws, the Commissioner shall have the authority to make such decision, including the imposition of a penalty, as in his judgment shall be in the best interests of the Association. The penalty that may be assessed under the preceding two sentences may include, without limitation, a fine, suspension, and/or the forfeiture or assignment of draft choices. No monetary penalty fixed under this provision shall exceed $2,500,000."

 

And article 13(a):

"The Membership of a Member or the interest of any Owner may be terminated by a vote of three fourths (3/4) of the Board of Governors if the Member or Owner shall do or suffer any of the following:

(a) Willfully violate any of the provisions of the Constitution and By-Laws, resolutions, or agreements of the Association."

aAnd apparently, if he doesn't pay the 2.5 mil fine w/in 30 days, that's also a violation of the constitution.  So, do you think that pretty much gives the league the upper hand in any court case?


2.5 Million is chump change to Donald Sterling.  He's worth a couple billion.

 I'm sure he'll pay that.  Even if he didn't, as long as the court gives him a stay before the time period is up, it wouldn't count as far as i know.



SocialistSlayer on 30 April 2014
badgenome said:
Pristine20 said:
Man, I don't like the whole thing. Seemed like everyone involved was trying to save face including the likes of the NAACP (who was about to give him a lifetime achievement award btw...shows how much money can buy). He just had to fall on the sword now when his comments didn't actually directly harm anyone vs when his actions actually did in the past and it was ignored. Only when it was bad for business did the moral police rush out.

It is as funny as it is sickening. When he was fined for refusing to rent to black tenants because they "stink and attract vermin", the NBA didn't give a fuck, the players didn't give a fuck, and the NAACP definitely didn't give a fuck. But when he's caught asking his girlfriend not to take pictures with Magic Johnson, well, that's a national crisis.

well democrats are usually always forgiven for their racism, and everything is brushed under the rug. And Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, know that in their heart they arent racist. And its really not surprising that the NAALCP was about to give him an award, they are an incredibly racist organization.



 

badgenome on 30 April 2014
Kasz216 said:

It was to the NAACP of LA.  Who were going to give him a lifetime achivement award!

How they didn't do a google search first I'll never know.

Yeah, it's almost like all they care about is money or something.



Dark_Lord_2008 on 30 April 2014

The NBA are a private company and they have revealed a secret by-law that can prosecute people up to $2.5 million. Sterling has the right to challenge this ridiculous fine and simply refuse to pay it. When was it ok to eaves drop private conversations and make it public?