http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshheq17oo23RQgErKQT

You've probably seen this but I haven't seen a post yet on it here.

Basically, 12 year old daughter posts half naked pics of herself on facebook.

Mother literally beats the shit out of her. Then posts it online... as a... punishment..?

I wanna know your opinion. Do you agree with this?

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My opinion:

Well obviously the daughter was wrong, firstly by disobeying her mothers orders (I assume that she was not allowed facebook) and also posting an explicit picture on there. But the way I see it is she hurt no one but her self by doing that. So what gives the mother the right to continuously whip the fuck out her.

Like, she claims she's had issues with the daughter since she was much younger. To me, it seems like failed (not necessarily bad) parenting. 

Whats interesting is that while she's beating up her young daughter, her other children are just walkign around the house normally (as if it is a regular occurence)

So is that what parenthood has become. The way I see it, the moment she whips (as opposed to hit/slap) she is no better than the white supremacists/kkk supporters in the old days that she probably complains about.

And the daughter, keeps coming back despite knowing she's gonna be hit some more. If it was me, if I was whipped once, i'd have hidden in my room, or even cooled off outside. The fact she returns and cooperates says to me she isn't a bad or rude or intolerable person.

She made a mistake, as do 100% of kids in EVERY country every do. It does not condem a whoop-ass.

I think up to the age of 16, arguably 18, your parent(s) are 100% responsible for your actions. They chose to bring you in this world and if they can't control your ass then they should get "the whip".

I never got whipped or beaten as a child. Maybe the odd occasional slap if I was rude or did something outrageous. And if I say so, I turned out ok.

This mother is a single-parent. To 4 kids. So I get that she struggles, but if she couldn't handle all 4 then send them to a care home and to a better life and re evaluate your own.

So silly girl, but making mistakes no bigger nor little than the mistakes you an I made in our time. And her mistake involves posting a picture of herself. I know of much worse she could've done, so that mother is lucky.

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There are some updates to this video, where the girl states she knows her mother loves her etc. and her older daughter explains the situation but I dont care about that. The damage is done and is in the video above.

I think the fact that the other girls aren't afraid is good. I assume It means they all understand why she was getting punished and that they were not in any danger. Sounds like the rules are pretty clear and understood by other members of the household. If they were intimidated then it would be more scary implying the mother does it out of anger or for less logical reasons when here that doesn't seem to be the case.

It takes more than stern words or the occasional faux violence slap with some kids. Her mother continually questioned her about her behavior and it's effects during the disciplinary action and that is the important part.

I think saying she got the sh*t whipped out of her is a gross over exaggeration. I wouldn't even call it violence so much as discipline. I hope her posting that makes not only her daughter but all of her daughters friends think about how they are seeking attention.

Posting this online is sick. That beating she took was a little too much,if she said something like "But i want to do it again" that would justify another strike but she remains quiet and just comes back i think she learned the lesson from the first strike.
Also if this was the first time she had posted pictures of herself a simple talk should have been the solution but if she did it again ok beating her with one or 2 strikes would have been fine but a beating... hell no never.

i think that was too much. especially given the girl's passive and submissive demeanor.

if i was in that situation i wouldn't have physically beaten her tho, i can't really think of a situation where i would do that. unless spankings count as a beating, although a girl of that age is too old for that anyway.

Because posting that online is what a good parent does!

hmm, I can't say its completely bad parenting. Beating and then posting the pics is very wrong though.

I didn't watch the video, but from the comments, I'm going to say it wasn't abuse. I don't believe getting whipped with a belt counts as abuse, if it was meant as a constructive punishment. If it was done randomly or because of anger, then that would be a different story. It's debatable whether or not spanking is an effective form of punishment, but I don't believe there's anything inherently immoral or abusive about it. What you may call "beating the shit out of", another culture may call a standard form of discipline.

I don't agree with posting the video online though. I can't imagine any positive effects that could stem from that decision. But who knows? The mother definitely knows her daughter better than we know her daughter, and maybe posting the video online will effectively improve the child's behavior. I do believe that the fact that the daughter posted those pictures in the first place suggests that the mother's parenting has been ineffective; however, I do not believe that this spanking in particular is bad parenting.

We really cannot assume much from the video alone. Yeah, the girl may seem calm and cooperative now, but again, the mother knows the girls actual feelings better than we do. I would not be surprised if this showcase of cooperation is a guise that the girl puts up every time she's in trouble (I've seen it done with my own eyes). We cannot assume that the mother has not tried to be peaceful with the girl before. The facebook pics may actually be a part of a relatively long history of disobedience from the girl, and this may have been the last straw for the mother. Also, the calmess of the other girls leads me to believe that the rules and punishments were clear in the house meaning the 12-year-old knew exactly what she was getting into. 

There is a lot I disagree with in the OP, but for brevity I'll only directly reply to this comment:

"I think up to the age of 16, arguably 18, your parent(s) are 100% responsible for your actions. They chose to bring you in this world and if they can't control your ass then they should get "the whip". "

I'm curious as to what you mean by "responsible." If you mean that parents are the sole cause of a child's actions, then that's false. There are a lot more factors than parenting which can affect a child's behavior: temperament, environment, peer group, culture, etc. Outside of isolating kids from the external world, there's no way a parent can have absolute control over those factors. Also, once a person has reached a certain age (sometime in their early teens), their personality is pretty much formed and there's nothing you can do, within reason, to change them. They've already become their own person by then.

If by "responsible", you mean that parents should be held accountable, then that would be a different, and more disputable, matter. One could argue that children aren't programmable robots whose actions are completely determined by one other agent; rather they are human beings capable of independently forming their own desires and values. As such, it would be wrong to hold anyone accountable for a child's action beyond a certain age. It seems intrinsically wrong to hold someone accountable for something they can't control.

What is messed up about this comment?

So you think her parents are only to blame for her behaviour? What about other influences in her life like her friends, classmates and family? 

Any kind of violence against a child is wrong.

Frankly, if you use any kind of physical punishment against a child, you're a monster. If you resort to any kind of aggression (such as shouting), you're probably a bad parent.

Once it gets to teenage years, things are different. But children are a no-go.