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Who wins Holiday 2014- Holiday 2015 ?

Playstation 4's line up too strong. 283 52.90%
 
Wii-U Crushes all. 75 14.02%
 
XBOne with a historic comeback. 52 9.72%
 
I have no idea, but my popcorn is ready. 113 21.12%
 
Other. 12 2.24%
 
Total:535
GotBoth said:
sales2099 said:

This is probably going to be quoted to death, but unless every PS3 exclusive pulls an Infamous and sells better because PS4 is selling better, those bottom 3 IP's are all on a decline.

Also it wouldn't make much sense to blow their biggest load in 12 months when it could be spread out through the gen and sprinkle the gaps with new IPs and lesser known exclusives.


Halo 3 - 12 million

Halo 4 - 9 million - On A Decline

And Halo 5 is all Microsoft is Really Betting On Right Now.  At Least In Terms of What Could Change The Tide In the States.

And With Xbox One Istall Base Looking Low, I Wouldn't Be Suprised if Halo 5 Does 4-5 Mil Max.

Yes that is a decline, but 9 million is still 9 million.

God of War 2013 vs GOW 3, LBP drop offs since the 1st, and GT.....damn. Much more severe in this case.



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GotBoth said:
sales2099 said:

This is probably going to be quoted to death, but unless every PS3 exclusive pulls an Infamous and sells better because PS4 is selling better, those bottom 3 IP's are all on a decline.

Also it wouldn't make much sense to blow their biggest load in 12 months when it could be spread out through the gen and sprinkle the gaps with new IPs and lesser known exclusives.


Halo 3 - 12 million

Halo 4 - 9 million - On A Decline

And Halo 5 is all Microsoft is Really Betting On Right Now.  At Least In Terms of What Could Change The Tide In the States.

And With Xbox One Install Base Looking Low, I Wouldn't Be Suprised if Halo 5 Does 4-5 Mil Max. Can't Do Over 9 Mil if there are not 9 Mil Xbox One's In the Wild.

You really think it'll do worse than Halo did on the OG Xbox? Believe it or not, games continue selling as the install base increases. And it's pretty much a given that X1 will be above 9m by the time Halo 5 drops.



sales2099 said:
BeElite said:
2014
DriveClub Fall
The Order oct/nov
Uncharted4 nov/dec
2015
GGames New IP
Sony Bend IP
GT7 Nov

Curious what makes people think GT7 will be in 2015, 2 years after GT6.

Because GT6 was a 3 year dev cycle on established hardware. So logically GT7 would take another 3 years. But then again its newer, more powerful hardware, so it could be 4 years. 

GT6 assets were build with GT7 in mind, Kaz saying GT7 "could" come in 2014 says plenty.

GT5 took to damn long, much to do with Pds struggles with PS3.  GT3 came mere 15 months after PS2 release, This gen should be back to that tye of time frame. 



ethomaz said:

sales2099 said:

Curious what makes people think GT7 will be in 2015, 2 years after GT6.

Because GT6 was a 3 year dev cycle on established hardware. So logically GT7 would take another 3 years. But then again its newer, more powerful hardware, so it could be 4 years.

Because Kaz hinted to a 2015 release on PS4... can be GT7: Prologue or GT6 Remastered but something will be launched.

Another prologue.....I forgot they did that. But ya with the above logic the full game is still 2-3 years off.



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sales2099 said:

Yes that is a decline, but 9 million is still 9 million.

God of War 2013 vs GOW 3, LBP drop offs since the 1st, and GT.....damn. Much more severe in this case.

Exept you lack proof abut a decline, Vg cant track anything these days let alone a world wide seller like GT.  And then there is digital, which has been gainig slaes share. 

LBP2 has digital, 1 had not. 



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sales2099 said:
GotBoth said:
sales2099 said:

This is probably going to be quoted to death, but unless every PS3 exclusive pulls an Infamous and sells better because PS4 is selling better, those bottom 3 IP's are all on a decline.

Also it wouldn't make much sense to blow their biggest load in 12 months when it could be spread out through the gen and sprinkle the gaps with new IPs and lesser known exclusives.


Halo 3 - 12 million

Halo 4 - 9 million - On A Decline

And Halo 5 is all Microsoft is Really Betting On Right Now.  At Least In Terms of What Could Change The Tide In the States.

And With Xbox One Istall Base Looking Low, I Wouldn't Be Suprised if Halo 5 Does 4-5 Mil Max.

Yes that is a decline, but 9 million is still 9 million.

God of War 2013 vs GOW 3, LBP drop offs since the 1st, and GT.....damn. Much more severe in this case.

So you're just going to ignore my post explaining why your reasoning there is flawed and keep parroting it anyway?

Why am I not surprised?



DucksUnlimited said:
sales2099 said:

Yes that is a decline, but 9 million is still 9 million.

God of War 2013 vs GOW 3, LBP drop offs since the 1st, and GT.....damn. Much more severe in this case.

So you're just going to ignore my post explaining why your reasoning there is flawed and keep parroting it anyway?

Why am I not surprised?

Using his logic, Gears of War is even more dead. Game averaged 6m+ per game and then Judgement got like 1.5M sales?

This doesn't mean Gears 4 will sell like crap...He just doesn't seem to grasp the concept that numbered sequels sell more than a prequel.



Since when is it considered a mega bomb for established franchises to release over a period of time? lol

I went into this thread thinking god knows what it's gonna be about.



EB1994 said:
DucksUnlimited said:
sales2099 said:

Yes that is a decline, but 9 million is still 9 million.

God of War 2013 vs GOW 3, LBP drop offs since the 1st, and GT.....damn. Much more severe in this case.

So you're just going to ignore my post explaining why your reasoning there is flawed and keep parroting it anyway?

Why am I not surprised?

Using his logic, Gears of War is even more dead. Game averaged 6m+ per game and then Judgement got like 1.5M sales?

This doesn't mean Gears 4 will sell like crap...He just doesn't seem to grasp the concept that numbered sequels sell more than a prequel.

I just saw him in another thread talking about how he gets a high from seeing the X1 pull decent numbers like this week's, so maybe that explains why he seems to be so confused right now.



sales2099 said:
GotBoth said:
sales2099 said:

This is probably going to be quoted to death, but unless every PS3 exclusive pulls an Infamous and sells better because PS4 is selling better, those bottom 3 IP's are all on a decline.

Also it wouldn't make much sense to blow their biggest load in 12 months when it could be spread out through the gen and sprinkle the gaps with new IPs and lesser known exclusives.


Halo 3 - 12 million

Halo 4 - 9 million - On A Decline

And Halo 5 is all Microsoft is Really Betting On Right Now.  At Least In Terms of What Could Change The Tide In the States.

And With Xbox One Istall Base Looking Low, I Wouldn't Be Suprised if Halo 5 Does 4-5 Mil Max.

Yes that is a decline, but 9 million is still 9 million.

God of War 2013 vs GOW 3, LBP drop offs since the 1st, and GT.....damn. Much more severe in this case.

I notice a trend with you.  You always switch argument mid-course.  If your initial posts pointed out Sony's MULTIPLE Franchises which sell well are "On A Decline"...So I Point Out So Is Microsoft's Biggest and You say 9 Mil Is 9 Mil.  We weren't talking Numbers.  But If you want to talk numbers, as a PS4 Owner I have several different Genres to choose from, I Can Bet You (This is purely speculation) But 35% of Halo sales are Halo Hype because of low choice in variety of games and Halo being one of the best shooters it sells.  I never owned a Halo Game but with my X1 I must admit I am caught in Halo 5 Hype Becuase It Is All I have To Look Forward To On X1 at the moment (Quantum Break and Below to a certain extent and I like Forza but a new one wont come for 2-3 Years).  I will buy God of War, LBP and GT first day, only one X1 first party exclusive i will buy day one = Halo.