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Yay 360 still 2nd place.....maybe ;P



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sales2099 said:
Yay 360 still 2nd place.....maybe ;P

It really could be.  Having pulled the shipment numbers it looks like it is still too close to call.  Unless Sony tell us the breakdown of PS3s versus PS4s next month (and going forward) we may never be able to definitively say that one finished above the other.  It would also help immensely if they gave a final shipped number for PS2 - using the below assumptions it has shipped over 162m.

 

PS3 Period Cum   X360 Period Cum   PS3 v X360
Q4 13   82.95   Q3 14 0.8 83.8   -0.85
Q3 13* 3.5 82.95   Q2 14 3.5 83   -0.05
Q2 13 2 79.45   Q1 14 1.2 79.5   -0.05
Q1 13 1.1 77.45            
FY12** 12 76.35   FY13 9.8 78.3   -1.95
FY11 13.9 64.35   FY12 13 68.5   -4.15
FY10 14.3 50.45   FY11 13.7 55.5   -5.05
FY09 13 36.15   FY10 10.3 41.8   -5.65
FY08 10.1 23.15   FY09 11.2 31.5   -8.35
FY07 9.24 13.05   FY08 8.7 20.3   -7.25
FY06 3.81 3.81   FY07 6.6 11.6   -7.79
FY05 0 0   FY06 5 5   -5

*Q3 13 reported combined PS4/PS3 shipped of 7.8m.  Assumed PS4 shipped = 4.3m

**FY12 reported combined PS3/PS2 shipped of 16.5m.  Assumed PS2 shipped 4.5m (versus 4.1m in FY11).  This makes Sony's numbers a fair fit with their announcement of 80m as of November.



Expect major adjustments after Sony earnings report and April NPD, both for last gen and current gen.



McGran said:

**FY12 reported combined PS3/PS2 shipped of 16.5m.  Assumed PS2 shipped 4.5m (versus 4.1m in FY11).  This makes Sony's numbers a fair fit with their announcement of 80m as of November.

Why would Sony Ship more ps2's in FY12 than FY11?



Way overdue.

That adjustment simply has to happen.



                            

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Oh. Perhaps it can reach 90 million but it will remain in third place.



    

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You don't think there are 500,000 retailers in the world with about six 360s in stock?

I'd say VGchartz tracked the sold to consumers numbers exceptionally well.



GProgrammer said:
McGran said:

**FY12 reported combined PS3/PS2 shipped of 16.5m.  Assumed PS2 shipped 4.5m (versus 4.1m in FY11).  This makes Sony's numbers a fair fit with their announcement of 80m as of November.

Why would Sony Ship more ps2's in FY12 than FY11?

To be frank I the only reason I can think of is that just happened to be the optimal utilisation of remaining components they had.

Short answer - this level of PS2 shipment makes the rest of the numbers look 'about right' with regards the 80m mark announced in November.

It doesn't appear to make much sense otherwise, but to assign a lower figure to PS2 means that PS3 likely passed 80m shipped earlier than November.  Even with the figure I've given the 80m would actually have been passed around the end of the second week of October so it's possible the PS2 figure should be even higher, I just didn't think it that likely.

I reckon you could make a case for the PS2 figure as low as 4m, but it would be based on saying that 2nd November was the first time Sony tallied up October shipments since reporting Q2 and not only has they passed 80m but were probably around 80.5 or more.  I don't think that's necessarily an unreasonable view to hold but until the numbers come out it's at the more speculative end of the range of what could be true.

If the PS2 figure is less than 4m then PS3 would have passed 80m by September, so could have been expected to have been reported at Q2 earnings report.



mochachino said:
You don't think there are 500,000 retailers in the world with about six 360s in stock?

I'd say VGchartz tracked the sold to consumers numbers exceptionally well.

The golden rule this late in the gen, where supply channels are very easy to control, is that there tends to be a million or so in stores



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