spurgeonryan said:
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Well, to be fair, this is getting to the point of spam. He's just spaced out his threads so they become less obvious to the mods but its the same old crap done over and over.
spurgeonryan said:
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Well, to be fair, this is getting to the point of spam. He's just spaced out his threads so they become less obvious to the mods but its the same old crap done over and over.
Turkish said:
Well, there are so many different kind of apes, and if one kind, the humans evolved to look like us, why did the gorilla, chimpanzee and every other race still look the same? Why did only the human grow so different? They both grew up in similar natural conditions, it also baffles me how the human is the only live form that grew intelligent, and while the other live forms of the earth are not intelligent, they know exactly how to survive(birds building nests without prior knowledge, apes using plants to heal themselves, animal babies able to walk etc), the human baby is not able to do that. |
Scoobes has mentioned most of what I was going to answer with (humans just happen to be the surviving hominid, just as other modern apes will have branched off other doomed species, and modern apes don't look like those from 5 million years ago)
Also you are underestimating the intelligence of modern apes, they are likely far more intelligent than apes of the past (just not to the extent humans are). And you are again assuming evolution has some kind of ultimate species goal, just as evolution is not a progression towards humanity it is not a progression towards higher intelligence alone. While intelligence is a positive trait like faster movement or higher strength, they come at a price to other bodily functions and the limitations of the physical world, the process of evolution finds the right balance to help survival in the 'short' term.
As for human babies being unable to walk, that's partly due to higher intelligence, partly the more complex way we walk. Many other higher primates cannot walk at birth (instead they cling to their mother)... Walking upright, with a heel to toe motion rather than all on toes (as with most 4 legged mammals) is a more complicated method of walking that requires longer to learn. Our high intelligence also means larger heads, which means human babies are more top-heavy to it's harder to balance upright. Larger heads is also why humans have relatively early births compared to brain development (babies head has to fit through the pelvis). Many mammals brains are fully developed at birth but humans are born sooner with more brain development after birth.
Yeah and how much evidence backs up the bible?? lol
vivster said: Because being hard headed and trying to make a valid point while blocking out any discussion under the guise of the scientific method pisses me off. He is spitting in the face of everything that is called scientific debate. There is a difference between stating what you believe in and having an agenda. He knows very well that there is no empirical data for evolution because it is impossible. Exactly how impossible it would be to proof anything that is by definition unattainable for humans like witnessing the big bang or seeing god. His points add absolutely nothing to the discussion of evolution. No scientist claims to have proof for evolution, much like no one claims that he can disprove it. Both would be foolish. He just wants to hear someone say the magical T-word so he can rest his case which never was one. All I can say is that there is a thing called "evidence" and there is tons for evolution varying in strength. That's why the vast majority of scientists and non-scientists believe it is the truth. Which makes the second sentence of the OP already a blatant lie. Yes, I would very much shut up every liar who spews his filth in my direction. |
Just because someone is uneducated and/or forms arguments doesn't mean they should be moderated.
As for the OP, I would advise you to make your own search for evidence of evolution. There's loads of information on the internet that anyone can read. You're not going to get many good replies in a video game forum. If you try to ask other people to provide the information for you, you're never going to be persuaded because most users don't have all the facts themselves. But if you take an active role in your own education, going directly to the information, then I think you'll have a higher probability of finding the truth.
As a biochem major, I can assure you that evolution very much exists, and please don't try to deny it. If you want evidence, there are actually E. coli lab kits that you can use to show how evolution works in a short amount of time, as natural selection can be seen on a microscale.
Just by knowing how natural selection and genes work you can deduce evolution. Genes have the potential to change, depending on parental inheritance and random mutation. This means that a member of a species can have small differences than the rest. Over time, as genes change due to generations of different ancestors, the species itself changes, and after perhaps millions of years there is a chance that a part of that species will branch off due to being very unsimilar to the rest.
With natural selection, only the organisms best suited for their environment survive. If one member of a species has better sweat-producing capability due to superior eccrine glands, while another member is greatly inferior in terms of perspiration production, and both face a drought, the one with the better eccrine glands will survive and spread its genes while the other dies, and is unable to reproduce and spread their inferior genes. After a while, there will be no more members of that species in the area that has poor eccrine glands, and thus through genetics the species would have changed, ever so slightly. Over millions of years, this cycle repeats itself, and organisms change drastically, in function and appearance, as only the ones able to best adapt in their current forms survive and pass on their characteristics.
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