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Forums - General Discussion - I am seeking empirical evidence for the evolution story

The evolution story goes something like this: life somehow arose in goo and evolved to you by the way of the zoo. Has ridiculous as it sounds some people actually believe it's true. But surely if it is true we can find documentation of organisms evolving novel features and abilities that can give credence to the evolution story.

Is there any empirical, observational documentation of an organism population evolving camouflage abilities on the fly like an Indonesian Mimic Octopus or Anole Lizard? Or an organism evolve special clawed feet to walk vertically and upside down on all walls like an ant? Is their documentation of any creature population evolving feathers or a blow hole or gills? How about a fruitfly evolving glands to produce silk or a spineret or bioluminence abilities or anything of that sort?

How about an organism evolving antennas, a blow hole, gills, a shell, eyes, baleen plates, fluke, arms, legs, trunk, claws, ink dispersal abilities etc. ? Just any radical novel feature or ability would suffice.

You see, it takes radical changes to get a cell from goo to all the diversity of life we see today. But I have yet to see any documentation of at least one example of any organisms observed while occuring evolve any radical novel abilities or features. It seems that it is an assumption it happened but without the empirical evidence to back it up.

And if you didn't know, empirical, observational evidence is part of the scientific method. Thus if there is no empirical, observational evidence then it is not scientific:

" The scientific method is a body of techniques for investigating phenomena, acquiring new knowledge, or correcting and integrating previous knowledge. *To be termed scientific, a method of inquiry must be based on empirical* and measurable evidence subject to specific principles of reasoning."

Rules for the study of natural philosophy", Newton 1999, pp. 794–6, from Book 3, The System of the World

Moreover can the events of the story really be scientifically tested and repeated to even make it plausible? I think not.

Believe me, I scoured the scientific literature and couldn't find one example. Even the late Dr. Lynn Margulis was in the same boat:

"This is the issue I have with neo-Darwinists: They teach that what is generating novelty is the accumulation of random mutations in DNA, in a direction set by natural selection. If you want bigger eggs, you keep selecting the hens that are laying the biggest eggs, and you get bigger and bigger eggs. But you also get hens with defective feathers and wobbly legs. Natural selection eliminates and maybe maintains, but it doesn't create.... [N]eo-Darwinists say that new species emerge when mutations occur and modify and organism. I was taught over and over again that the accumulation of random mutations led to evolutionary change-led to new species. I believed it until I looked for evidence." http://discover.coverleaf.com/discovermagazine/201104?pg=68#pg68 "

 

It doesn't have to be recorded in a lifetime. There could be records of certain organisms throughout the centuries documenting clear cut radical evolutionary changes of organisms developing novel features and abilities. But none exists has far as I know.


So please present your valid documentation and please stay on topic.

Thank you



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Again, if you are going to respond please respond to the fundamental question of the OP.



Did not read the whole thing but any fifth grader can do a microevolution test. A macroevolutionary test would take million of years and the therefore impossible to study. If small changes to a population can occur in a short amount of time cant large changes occur in a large amount of time? People who deny evolution at least on a microevolutionary bases are either uneducated or are blindly religious.



toastboy44562 said:
Did not read the whole thing but any fifth grader can do a microevolution test. A macroevolutionary test would take million of years and the therefore impossible to study. If small changes to a population can occur in a short amount of time cant large changes occur in a large amount of time? People who deny evolution at least on a microevolutionary bases are either uneducated or are blindly religious.


In another words you have no empirical evidence?



Anyone?



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I just dont understand why apes didnt evolve



Turkish said:
I just dont understand why apes didnt evolve

They did. Apes and humans have evolved by exactly the same amount since whenever their common ancestors were around.



OoSnap said:
toastboy44562 said:
Did not read the whole thing but any fifth grader can do a microevolution test. A macroevolutionary test would take million of years and the therefore impossible to study. If small changes to a population can occur in a short amount of time cant large changes occur in a large amount of time? People who deny evolution at least on a microevolutionary bases are either uneducated or are blindly religious.


In another words you have no empirical evidence?


Are you less educated than a fifth grader? try taking a handful of peppered moths and place them where the tress are white from snow. The white ones will survive and blacks ones will not. Making the fequency of white ones increase.



Oh look it only took 2 seconds to google Evolution evidence
E.G. http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence

Including this little bit of wisdom

Because a great amount of data supports the idea of biological evolution through natural selection, and because no scientific evidence has yet been found to prove this idea false, this idea is considered a scientific theory. Because lots of evidence supports scientific theories, they are usually accepted as true by a majority of scientists.

Educate yourself. Ofcourse you're always free to come to a different conclusion.



Regarding this bit

You see, it takes radical changes to get a cell from goo to all the diversity of life we see today.


Changes are far more gradual than you think. Did you know that the DNA that makes us arms is the same for fins in fish.
For example http://open.salon.com/blog/avimecca/2014/04/14/the_fish_with_the_opposable_thumb