Ok I posted your logo and a link to your website (up right) : http://www.gamekult.com/blog/Outcast/ Hope it helps (I get 400-800 visits per day). I also post a lot of articles with VGC as the source. Good luck PS: one question : you don't want to be seen as a "Wii"-oriented site? But I never saw something that would let me think that. You seem impartial to me.

There are simply more Wii fans than PS3 or 360 fans in the forums, and people judge the site based on the forums (even though that's not really what matters, it's the numbers that matter). I spread the word when I can.

Well im an xbox fan but I don't post a lot here, id spread the site around if I could trust the reliability of it, but right now im still uncertain of how accurate figures are.

All the sites you suggested, myspace, game sites, etc etc, YOU CAN ADVERTISE on. Yes, I understand the helping the community, and doing your part, but why don't you at least tell us what YOU'VE done to advertise.

What difference you thing it will do ? other then more people.

Simple solution, how about some mods that arent only wii lovers ?

News, you want you can compete with ign or n4g.  Try a banner exchange with some legit game news sites.

Find me annoying all you want, I'm just playing the Devil's Advocate. If you can't handle that, maybe you're not quite cut out for this. *shrug* And I never once said use money to advertise.  I said everything you suggested, YOU CAN DO.

Btw, I do promote your site. I think your attitude says a lot though, I think I might just stop.

Go back and read my posts again. I never ONCE said I'd only assist the site for a "paid" position. It was called a suggestion. I actually said if I had the time from my own project I'd love to help out, but quite frankly, I'm hardly impressed with your attitude. Just because someone may give YOU some attitude, doesn't mean you should give it back, especially when you're one of the ones in charge. Looks worse on you than me. And as I said, Devil's Advocate. I never forced a gun to your head to respond, I was just making my own conjectures, based on my OWN personal experiences, and things I've witnessed personally. All I was saying was you can make your own Facebook ID/Group, your own MySpace page to promote the site. I doubt you have, so once again, as the Devil's Advocate, why ask others to advertise when you've hardly done so yourself with some pretty easy to do networking sites? I used myspace and facebook for my project as a means to advertise and I nearly doubled my userbase in a month. Instead of responding, pointlessly, to my posts, make a myspace profile for VgChartz.

Not all mods are Wii lovers...

roadkillers - PS3

mrstickball - 360

stof and BenKenobi88 are both unbiased towards consoles.

Edit: I'm not saying Mrstickball and roadkillers are biased towards a system, they've just mentioned the system they prefered.

Once again, I never once said you, or anyone for that matter, doesn't do anything. I'm well aware of the core work you put into the site, the work and quite evident frustration of the moderators, but it's the minor details you seem to ignore or not put a lot of energy into. As the Owner of ANY organization, it's up to YOU to be looked up to, as it's beneficiary, and it's provider. If you won't take a few minutes to even just START a group on the social networking sites, and then encourage others to join it and spread the word, that's just wrong. Leaders are meant to step up, and have their followers spread the word. You're just expecting the followers to step up and spread the word, and not really show yourself in any way during the process. "In common parlance, a devil's advocate is someone who takes a position for the sake of argument." I've taken a position, and I argue based on that. Rude? Perhaps, but it is still playing the Devil's Advocate.

The project is a game I work on, based on DragonBall Z.  It's text-based and primarily focussed on roleplaying elements.  I head up all operations of the game, including an academy for those willing to learn how to work on the game.  As well I do all the webhosting through a virtual server, which is part of my main server.  It's not a huge project, it has somewhere in the neighbourhood of 800-1000 playerfiles, with roughly 10-25 players on at any given time.

Though it's relatively small in comparison to this, I also have 2.5 children which is where most of my time goes.  I'm also in the process of heading to police college as well.  That is why I don't have time to offer any type of services to the site, my life is rather... full right now.

 As for the CTR.  Google around, you'll find a lot of people average 1-3%.  Why you average less, I don't know, but I've maintained a steady 1-3% CTR for the last few months, sometimes higher, sometimes lower.

Hey, you want to take things personally, that's your call. Obviously you don't understand the idea behind Devil's Advocate, and just because you say "It's rude, it's not Devil's Advocate" doesn't mean that's the case, maybe in your opinion, but not in general.

If you've created a myspace group, why not put someone in charge to oversee the adds, moderation, and general management of THAT group? Why not do the same with facebook?

I personally think you need to lay off on being so damn defensive. Civilized? I'm quite civilized thank you very much. Just because you have an issue with someone being blunt, doesn't mean I'm barbaric. As for being constructive, if you'd take the time to read the posts and ignore your own feelings, there are plenty of constructive suggestions in there. Just because my way of thinking how things should be done, differs from yours, doesn't mean you're wrong, or I'm wrong. It means we're both right in our own special little ways.

As for people "helping" out.  I don't encourage them to click, and anyone with half a brain correlates ad revenue to the ads.  It happens everywhere and it's not some isolated incident.