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Forums - Sales Discussion - "The Console Market is Shrinking" is a BS Statement

 

The console market is

shrinking 98 43.36%
 
staying the same 52 23.01%
 
growing 74 32.74%
 
Total:224
S.T.A.G.E. on 18 April 2014

Nintendo's portion of the gaming audince last was a crowd that were not gamers. They were a new audience that played gaming in passing because the device made gaming simple for everyone and their grandmother to play. Nintendo had gone from 20+ console owners to 100 million within a generation and the majority of those consumers could not be tracable back to the generation before hand. Analysts had applauded Nintendo in the beginning for a finding a new market of gamer because these people typically showed no sign of gaming nor about caring about games hence why Nintendo first party was the main thing that sold on the Wii and a handful of third party.



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retroking1981 on 18 April 2014
Cobretti2 said: 

As for consoles I can only see them growing because of their multimedia functions connected to a TV.

On a side note, look at all the limited edition consoles that have come out last gen and this gen so far. Lots of dedicated gamers will buy these "limited edition" consoles so the numbers are already inflated of actual gamers. Case in point is 3DS, they had at least 6-8 limited edition systems. I know I bought several of them as collectibles lol I also know others who done the same.

1. I'm not so sure, smart TVs and set top boxes already do what I've seen from consoles.

2. Good point, maybe Nintendo should release some Limited Edition Wii U consoles. A Banana Yellow DK Edition, Gold Zelda, Some sort of MK Edition. Cheap way to do it but it does seem to work.



Aerys on 18 April 2014

The whole world is shrinking in case you didnt know !



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

Cobretti2 on 18 April 2014
retroking1981 said:
Cobretti2 said: 

As for consoles I can only see them growing because of their multimedia functions connected to a TV.

On a side note, look at all the limited edition consoles that have come out last gen and this gen so far. Lots of dedicated gamers will buy these "limited edition" consoles so the numbers are already inflated of actual gamers. Case in point is 3DS, they had at least 6-8 limited edition systems. I know I bought several of them as collectibles lol I also know others who done the same.

1. I'm not so sure, smart TVs and set top boxes already do what I've seen from consoles.

2. Good point, maybe Nintendo should release some Limited Edition Wii U consoles. A Banana Yellow DK Edition, Gold Zelda, Some sort of MK Edition. Cheap way to do it but it does seem to work.

Smart tvs do indeed do some of this stuff however they still don't do it that well. Maybe I jsut got use to using a PS and XBOX for these functions lol.



 

 

retroking1981 on 18 April 2014
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Nintendo's portion of the gaming audince last was a crowd that were not gamers. They were a new audience that played gaming in passing because the device made gaming simple for everyone and their grandmother to play. Nintendo had gone from 20+ console owners to 100 million within a generation and the majority of those consumers could not be tracable back to the generation before hand. Analysts had applauded Nintendo in the beginning for a finding a new market of gamer because these people typically showed no sign of gaming nor about caring about games hence why Nintendo first party was the main thing that sold on the Wii and a handful of third party.

I still think a lot of those people are gaming though, just not on a Wii U. Those 'casuals' upgraded to phones/tablets/facebook imo.

Casuals have always been a part of gaming, it was Tetris that made the Game Boy not Super Mario.

Console sales will decline this gen but how many millions are playing games elsewhere? There's just more option available these days.



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retroking1981 on 18 April 2014

I wonder how much Brazil and China can bring to the market?

Both have huge potential with big populations.



JoeTheBro on 18 April 2014

LTD WW

360: 2.658 million 4/15/2006

PS3: 3.074 million 4/14/2006

Wii: 6.233 million 4/14/2006

Wii U: 2.917 million 4/13/2013

XBONE: 4.259 million 4/12/2014

PS4: 7.092 million 4/12/2014

 

7th gen: 11.965 million

8th gen: 14.268 million

 

LTD US

360: 1.268 million

PS3: 1.187 million

Wii: 2.135 million

Wii U: 1.143 milion

XBONE: 2.716 million

PS4: 3.041 million

 

7th gen: 4.59 million

8th gen: 6.9 million

 

YTD WW

360: 1.363 million

PS3: 1.685 million

Wii: 2.974 million

Wii U: 0.546 million

XBONE: 1.274 million

PS4: 2.818 million

 

7th gen: 6.022 million

8th gen: 4.638 million

 

YTD US

360: 657k

PS3: 463k

Wii: 988k

Wii U: 186k

XBONE: 778k

PS4: 956k

 

7th gen: 2.108 million

8th gen: 1.920 million

 

Weekly WW

360: 130k

PS3: 97k

Wii: 207k

Wii U: 33k

XBONE: 88k

PS4: 140k

 

7th gen: 434k

8th gen: 261k

 

Weekly US

360: 73k

PS3: 21k

Wii: 54k

Wii U: 12k

XBONE: 62k

PS4: 60k

 

7th gen: 148k

8th gen: 134k

*YTD numbers go off identical numbers of weeks, not necessarily the first week of that year



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NYANKS on 18 April 2014
Shaunaka said:
NYANKS said:
People always say this when a generation is coming to a close, because sales are going down and somehow this is not to be expected with old products. It's really dumb and not worth mentioning.

 

Are you saying this thread is dumb? It took me 15 minutes to get all the data and plot it on Calc. Did I waste my time?

Lol no, you're good.  I just hate when people think gaming is doing terrible when there is a simple explanation for the lesser sales, like a generation ending. 



Aerys on 18 April 2014

You did a great job, it had to be difficult to gather all these data



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

S.T.A.G.E. on 18 April 2014
retroking1981 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Nintendo's portion of the gaming audince last was a crowd that were not gamers. They were a new audience that played gaming in passing because the device made gaming simple for everyone and their grandmother to play. Nintendo had gone from 20+ console owners to 100 million within a generation and the majority of those consumers could not be tracable back to the generation before hand. Analysts had applauded Nintendo in the beginning for a finding a new market of gamer because these people typically showed no sign of gaming nor about caring about games hence why Nintendo first party was the main thing that sold on the Wii and a handful of third party.

I still think a lot of those people are gaming though, just not on a Wii U. Those 'casuals' upgraded to phones/tablets/facebook imo.

Casuals have always been a part of gaming, it was Tetris that made the Game Boy not Super Mario.

Console sales will decline this gen but how many millions are playing games elsewhere? There's just more option available these days.


Those casuals were already on cellphones/tablets and facebook. That was phenomenon wasnt new. The early woes of the 3DS was blamed on the cellphone market and now that the Wii U they are scrambling to find a reason why. 70 million gamers last gen were unaccounted for from the previous generation. The industry just randomly grew by the success of the Wii, but we all knew by the sales of the Wii that they were only momentarily interested in gaming and they wouldnt transfer over to the Wii U unless Nintendo could create a momentary pleasure or fad-like device like the Wii. They failed, so they didnt come back. You can't explain a complex device like the Wii U to casuals.