The one thing that is certain is that my dick is shrinking at an alarming rate. I suspect TV radiation is finally catching up to my beautiful package.
The console market is | |||
shrinking | 98 | 43.36% | |
staying the same | 52 | 23.01% | |
growing | 74 | 32.74% | |
Total: | 224 |
The one thing that is certain is that my dick is shrinking at an alarming rate. I suspect TV radiation is finally catching up to my beautiful package.
sales2099 said:
Ya, numbers. X1 outselling 360 in same timeframe in 13 countries at $100-$200 price difference. Don't know how to make this any simpler. You are talking like its the WiiU. |
only because of the record breaking launch, if you look at the weekly charts the 360 was doing a lot better from january to april (2006) than the X1 for the comparative period. Both Nintendo and Microsoft release failures and now the gaming industry is doomed!!
Bet reminder: I bet with Tboned51 that Splatoon won't reach the 1 million shipped mark by the end of 2015. I win if he loses and I lose if I lost.
chapset said:
only because of the record breaking launch, if you look at the weekly charts the 360 was doing a lot better from january to april (2006) than the X1 for the comparative period. Both Nintendo and Microsoft release failures and now the gaming industry is doomed!! |
Well the X1 outsold 360 in March. The gen is young.
Shadow1980 said:
It is? Wow. If true, that would be bad considering we have two new systems... Except it's not true. March 2014 NPD had all six consoles selling a combined 958k units, and the PS4 and XBO alone sold 682k units. Meanwhile, March 2013 had the 360, PS3, Wii, and Wii U selling a combined 631k units. At the current rate, this year will see console sales in the U.S. up by several million units. Even Europe is up slightly by VGC's estimates for February and March. Even Japan is up a bit over last year if you ignore the fact that the PS4 was in absentia until late February; Media Create Week 16 of this year has total home consoles at 26,281 units sold, while the same week last year was 24,607 units. So, overall the console market is indeed up over last year. We are now entering the upswing part of the cycle. 2013 was the nadir. The next peak will likely be in 2015 or 2016. After that, we'll hit the downswing part of the cycle, with the market bottoming out again around the time the ninth-gen systems debut, at which point the cycle begins again. Tide goes in, tide goes out. Never a miscommunication. You can explain that. |
You may interpretate isolated months numbers as you wish. However, just take a look at Vgcharts comparisons between years and you´ll see that the trend still continues.
A single example: year-to-date total console sales (same periods covered).2009: 17millions; 2010: 15 million; 2011: 14,3 million; 2012: 12,5 million; 2013: 11 million; 2014: 10,3 millions: http://www.vgchartz.com/article/251592/2014-year-on-year-sales-and-market-share-update-to-april-12th/
Some major retailers, like Gamestop, already announced they´re changing their focus from videogames to phones and tablets, due to this pattern. Investitors are careful, waiting for some point of stability on this.
ICStats said:
I don't think we can estimate the total market, or the market shares of the consoles, without looking at the separate trends and factors affecting each console. I'd love to see a quantitative model that would correclty predict Wii U will sell ~20 million less than Wii in the first 17 months. I'm not saying let's estimate "massive - large + slight.". Think of it as "outperform", "underperform", "market perform", terms used in analyst guidance. |
Making the right assumptins, you can. For example, it's easy to perceive the 7th generation sold significantly more the the 6th because of the Wii, which has appealed to a different audience and thus it has enlarged the market. It's also easy to understand that PS3 and X360 appeal to the same audience so the losses of one were the winnings of the other. Same thing for the 8th gen. The market will shrink because there is no console to appeal to a different audience anymore (WiiU has failed on that). PS4 and XOne are, like their predecessors, substitutes of each other. Therefore, it's a mistake to predict PS4 will sell extremely well without XOne to sell poorly. If PS4 sells like PS2, XOne will most probably sell like Xbox. Will it sell more, will it sell less? That is better perceived looking at the size of the market, which can only be done looking at the aggregate values. One cannot pull consumers out of thin air. The market is the market (the demand is what it is). For one to sell more, the others will have to sell less. Even with the Wii that was true. PS3 and X360 got their peak in the 5th year (unlike any other consoles before, which usually have their peak in the 2nd year) because of the Wii's premature death.
I don't have to look at how each console is performing individually. I know that, if XOne sells more than X360, PS4 won't sell like PS2. I only have to look at the aggregated values and take into account relevant factors (like Wii in the 7th gen enlarging the market and WiiU in the 8th gen failing to do so).
Prediction made in 14/01/2014 for 31/12/2020: PS4: 100M XOne: 70M WiiU: 25M
Prediction made in 01/04/2016 for 31/12/2020: PS4: 100M XOne: 50M WiiU: 18M
Prediction made in 15/04/2017 for 31/12/2020: PS4: 90M XOne: 40M WiiU: 15M Switch: 20M
Prediction made in 24/03/2018 for 31/12/2020: PS4: 110M XOne: 50M WiiU: 14M Switch: 65M
^ maybe you see it different, but I read what you said and it validates what I said - you used qualitative factors about the 3 consoles to make a better estimate.
- It's easy to say Sony & MS have a similar market, so they will just split it.
- It's also easy to say Wii enlarged the market by appealing to a different audience.
This is why if you want to talk about the market shrinking, you have to split it at least into two components and analyze:
- Is the core market Sony & MS appeals to growing or shrinking?
- Is the new Wii audience growing or shrinking?
I think people say the market will fall from 260 Mill to 200 Mill to spite Sony & MS. Instead of admitting Wii U lost the most of the Wii's new temp audience, it feels better to just say "the market is shrinking".