Go sell it in ebay,mostly can sell between $100~$150

UI problem?it never a problem without Kinect,it just even better when use with Kinect

The problem is i bet these people won't buy the console even it's $99 and still spent their time in here and keep giving us fake reason for "not buying it"

I don't even know what's the point to buy a Kinectless bundle(if it happened),it just weaker PS4 with same price if it's $399,a pure disaster for Xbox One and developers

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OT: it's a tricky situation, they both need it and don't for several reasons that have pros and cons, will be interesting to see what they'll do, a lower price won't work perfectly ($450, with tf and gold etc and still didn't managed to increase and stabilize sales close enough WW and couldn't take over the PS4 more than a week or two) and a Kinect-less X1 will take out some major difference with the PS4.. sooo yea...

A Kinect-less Xbox One seems ridiculous, the camera is supposed to be the USP of the console. Without it the Xbox One has no identity.

MS needs to drop the price of the console, not drop Kinect from the console.

The fact that most sony fans (which have been hating kinect for months) say that a kinect-less xbox one doesn't make sense it's proof enough that it make perfectly sense imho...

Would a 399$ X1 with Kinect make sense? Than you get a console that is on pretty equal terms with PS4, plus you get a great UI interface with Kinect.

Kinect is a complete waste of resources and a flagrant method of squeezing more money out of customers. Microsoft knows how to nickel and dime people, what with all the proprietary plugs and adapters they sell for 5 times their actual value (headphones, batteries, charging cables), not even mentioning 360 hard drives.

People here bring valid points about best quality skyping and voice commands. In reality, most people don't need best quality, they are fine with skyping over a $10 web cam, speaking into a $5 headset. Or using tablets with prebuilt camera/microphone.
Vouce control to navigate your TV - DirecTV is doing it for a while, Amazon now as well. Via a "free" remote control.

Kinect was a 2010/11 fad that died out quickly. They should just put 2010-2014 on its headstone, and move on...

Well, 360 got an evolved UI thanks in a big way to the original Kinect. Using X1 without Kinect works, aslong as you pin you games to the start screen (it just makes it easier to acces them) but the Kinect makes the whole experience so much more fluid than ever before.

I have 170+ games on my 360. Instead of going into the games library, imagine saying "Xbox, go to Radiant Silvergun" and the game pops up immediately. Or when you are waiting for a MP match to start, saying "Xbox, go to youtube" and you can watch youtube and get a notification when a new match begins. If you find that unnecessary, you can just put the Kinect away :).

I'll buy it for the exclusives ofcourse. Rather at 299 with a game and no Kinect than 399 with Kinect. Without Kinect the xbox one can perform better too, no overhead, including the 10% GPU reserve.

I'm probably not interesting enough as a customer for MS anyway. I already have ps+ so no need to start paying for live gold again as well. I'm not interested in full digital games nor streaming tv and movies. So I would just be buying the occasional exclusive AAA and xbla game. I was planning to buy one end this year, but the more I think about I should wait until end 2015 at least.

I hate what the xbox 360 UI has turned into. I don't have live gold anymore, nor have it connected to the internetin the living room. It looks extremely ugly, empty squares everywhere, missing box art for xbla games, and have to go on a hunt to find certain settings. I set it to autoplay discs, so I hardly ever see the UI anyway. The kids use it now for lego star wars and viva pinata (sequal please)

did somebody actually ran the math before running their mouth....

dropping Kinect and being at $350 makes the Xbox one effectively an unviable product no matter how much they raise their market share.... or at least with a ridiculously low profit that is not worth the effort...

so yeah imo they'd be better off working on great games exclusivity (no matter where they come from, 1st, 2nd, 3rd party studios) do great bundles with those games or a bunch of older games, keep doing non gaming headway to make their system ever more appealing to the casual crowd, and try to match or come close to the price tag of the PS4 while keeping a maximum of features bundled...

but then again the real issue here is not to be number one in market share it is to make sure you stay close enough while still generating profit.... being first is useless if you lose money... or make less money than when you were second...