I've got my popcorn and coke ready! the spotlights are on...  make us laugh!

The outcome of all of this:
FFXV is huge success and Sony wants exclusive rights again
or
FFXV is huge success and MS buys SE
FF is dead in Japan
Noctis doesn't appeal to the normal US crowd so they'll change his name to John
John is sad because his wife and kids have been killed by a band of terrorists
3rd person action shooter
Marty O' Donnel joins SEUSA team
SE decided to close its doors and the FF franchise was sold to 343
Noctis is John. John is master chief.
Final Fantasy XV-2: Johns redemption
XV=15-2=13
15-2=13-14=-1+4=3
Half Life 3 confirmed.

Sell some sex now

Re-establish what ? They just came off the most dominant combo in video game history with the (wii&ds) combo 250,000,000 consoles sold between them  more than ps3,psp and xbox 360 combined and still rules the handheld market and is currently in second place in hardware sales 8th generation and sold the most hardware and software in 2013 .....everytime I see people saying nintendo needs to do this or do that ...how can they ignore Nintendos  success and claim they are doomed yes they can improve in certain areas ...but  they are doing great financially in the video game industry .....no debt .......10,000,000,000 in cash reserves ...people lie numbers don't ...

NewGuy said: starcraft said: I remember when they bought the shares and everyone was talking about impending Sony SE exclusivity How did you remember that if they bought Squaresoft shares and not Square Enix? :P Anyways, this makes sense as Sony needs cash and having those shares wasn't giving it any upper hand with SE (no DQ on PS for the last decade, for example). Furthermore SE has made it clear that it wants to go multiplat, including future iterations of DQ, and that they want to focus on mobiles as well. The only thing Sony was getting out of those shares were some dividends. I can honestly see Sony Pictures (including all subsidiaries) and Sony Music (including all subsidiaries) being spun off and/or sold off  in the next few years if Sony doesn't start making some huge profits.

Very true....touche!

Not a big deal, SE's no longer exclusive to Playstation so I doubt this matters much

Doesn't really matter one way or the other. Sony's shares weren't enough to have any real power with Square's decisions. There was no real benefit to Sony to have those just sitting there when they could sell them. The money they just got from those shares could go to fund a new project or help offset other costs.

Better to sell them while you still can...

Sony should have sold those shares years ago.

What did SE did for sony recently ? Nothing. Only multis, fftype 0 only in jap, and ff10hd...

I don't even know why they didn't do this earlier.

Wii vs WiiU:

I'm sure that's all i really need to post to explain what i mean by "re-establish" :P

I'm not saying Nintendo are doing badly, just that they are currently on a downward spiral that they need to fix. Their presence in the home console market has pretty much collapsed, and their current handheld is lagging behind the DS both in hardware and software despite having no strong direct competition (which should be giving it higher sales, no lower). They even had to take a several hundred million loss to get the 3DS to where it is now :/

He made a stupid comment, so i replied with one in the same theme :P Neither Sony or Nintendo are really doomed at all, i meant purely that if this spiral continues Nintendo will be finding themselves in a bit of a pickle.