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I keep hearing x y and z about how the xbox one will do all of this amazing stuff.

hearing, not seeing.



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michael_stutzer said:
The thing that will increase the performance and resolution of games is tiled resources, not DX12. With tiled resources every game will hit 1080p without a hit to the performance.

Explain.

I'm particularly interested in why a process that takes away esram space will increase the resolution (increasing resolution = more esram required).



drkohler said:
michael_stutzer said:
The thing that will increase the performance and resolution of games is tiled resources, not DX12. With tiled resources every game will hit 1080p without a hit to the performance.

Explain.

I'm particularly interesting in why a process that takes away esram space will increase the resolution (increasing resolution = more esram required).


It wont, but buzzwords and hopes are more important than facts.



celador said:

This is from the same guy who said DirectX 12 could double X1 performance

DirectX 12 for Xbox One will make it easier for developers to run games in higher resolutions and with more detail, Stardock founder and CEO Brad Wardell has said.

Posting on Twitter, Wardell wrote: "One way to look at the XBox One with DirectX 11 is it has 8 cores but only 1 of them does dx work. With dx12, all 8 do."

Another Twitter user argues that Xbox One already does this, but Wardell says this isn't the case.

"I'm sorry but you're totally wrong on that front," he responded before adding, "XBO is very low on overhead. Overhead is not the problem. It is that the XBO isn't splitting DX tasks across the 8 cores."

Asked on Twitter how DX12 will benefit Xbox One games, Wardell replied: "I think it'll make it easier to have games run at higher resolution and have more objects on screen at once."

http://www.videogamer.com/news/directx_12_could_end_xbox_one_resolution_woes_suggests_stardock_ceo.html


Better CPU performance won't affect the resolution in any big way.  The current issue with the resolution has to do with a combination of the fact that the Xbox One has slower main memory, and a smaller graphics processor than the Playstation 4.

Better CPU performance just means better AI, Physics, and being able to run complex game code better.

Resolution is more of a GPU thing, so unless DX12 increases GPU performance substantially, it won't make much of a difference.



Xbone has a resolution issue?



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Two of the cpu cores are reserved for the operating system and kinect. DX12 is a API anyway. Mantle surely will drive the GPU more directly and improve performance. AMD know their hardware a lot better than Microsoft do;

http://hothardware.com/News/AMD-Mantle-vs-DirectX-Benchmarks-with-Battlefield-4-and-Star-Swarm/

Clearly Microsoft are fighting hard to blur the evidence that the ps4 is more powerful, they are getting developers and anyone they can influence to make the case the xbox one is competitive in performance but clearly they can't do that today because its clearly performing below so they try to make the case that in the future the xbox one will perform better.

If you want to see how powerful a console is just see how it performs on its best performing games of today on the type of games you like, be it fps, race games or whatever. There was a case to be made with ps3 and ps2 that they would need time to understand before the potential of those consoles came out and in both instances it was correct.



Man, they're talking DX12 up do much that if it doesn't provide PS4 equivalent in all games... its going to be seen as a failure.

Should be more low-key and just stress that it will provide noticeable improvements.



superchunk said:
Man, they're talking DX12 up do much that if it doesn't provide PS4 equivalent in all games... its going to be seen as a failure.

Should be more low-key and just stress that it will provide noticeable improvements.

But that's talking it up even more, since you know the difference between 900p and 1080p isn't noticeable right.



This will be one of my few and only comments on this forum. Does anybody here like Microsoft or Xbox One? Do you guys come here just to revel in your doubt? Does it make all of you feel better to put down the XB1? I really am done perusing your forum.



Its not as if the hardware will be magically faster. It's just as some say that MS probably released the console before it was ready and once they have DX12 ready, it will "feel" faster because now it's optimized. The secret sauce is like an athlete who is already finely tuned and now was given steroids to perform even better. The athlete didn't get a different body - they have the same - just now with extra secret sauce. At least that's my understanding of what they are trying to say... and just like last gen, the games do in fact get better. So even if xbox hardware will never equal PS4 spec wise... if they can optimize to get consistently 1080p/60fps then effectively it is all that matters.