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marley said:
Causation does not imply correlation. There are plenty of locations with very strict gun laws that have much lower murder rates than Chicago.

 The argument could very well hold true for Chicago itself, though.



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A gun law so powerful that it had a dramatic effect even a full year before it went into a effect?



Wow who would have thunk it?

Libtards will be banning knives next bc of what happened at the school in pittsburg today.



 

DamnTastic said:
NiKKoM said:
Didn't chicago had one of its coldest winter?

yeh I think it was too cold to shoot at eachother.

everybody stayed inside playing videogames.

I wonder if people actually know warm temp usually lead to rise in crime. (Well heat waves, don't know if the colder it is, the less likely you are to pull crimes.)

Also 15 is not a good number in my book. I dare say 5 is not a good number.



 

Acevil said:
DamnTastic said:
NiKKoM said:
Didn't chicago had one of its coldest winter?

yeh I think it was too cold to shoot at eachother.

everybody stayed inside playing videogames.

I wonder if people actually know warm temp usually lead to rise in crime. (Well heat waves, don't know if the colder it is, the less likely you are to pull crimes.)

Also 15 is not a good number in my book. I dare say 5 is not a good number.

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Miguel_Zorro said:
pokoko said:
A gun law so powerful that it had a dramatic effect even a full year before it went into a effect?


Exactly.  This had nothing to do with a change in concealed carry laws.  I'm not strongly for or against gun control.  I *am* strongly for evidence based policy. There was a large decrease in the murder rate from 2012 to 2013, BEFORE the concealed carry law.  In fact, the crime rate has been dropping in Chicago since the early 90s.  It's been dropping across the United States since the early 90s.

Here's the murder rate in NYC, for comparison.  Gun control laws remain strict there.  

Here's a chart that shows the violent crime rate for the entire United States.  Same drop.


Yep, we're safer and more prosperous than we've ever been.

That's why we need to keep spending more and more money on national security, throw more people in prison, equip the cops with tanks and assualt weapons, and loosen restrictions on gun ownership.

Apparently, the safer we are, the more terrifying the boogeyman becomes.



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Only because it's not hot outside in chicago yet. Conceled carry doesn't effect street gangs, so sadly it will rise back up.

The only way to stop it is to take all guns away, but it's 'merica, so that will never happen.



withdreday said:

Only because it's not hot outside in chicago yet. Conceled carry doesn't effect street gangs, so sadly it will rise back up.

The only way to stop it is to take all guns away, but it's 'merica, so that will never happen.

Actually the only way to reduce crime is to decriminalize all illegal drugs so that cartels don't have a monopoly on their sales, and so that the price of drugs decreases, allowing for more competition in the market. Drug prohibition is responsible for the majority of the violent crime in the United States. We need to target the incentives for violence rather than the means to enact it (there will always be some way to kill.) 



Honestly I think the murders dropped over here because of the coldass weather we been having!

Today finally seems really nice, unfortunately watch 100 people be shot because of it!



sc94597 said:
withdreday said:

Only because it's not hot outside in chicago yet. Conceled carry doesn't effect street gangs, so sadly it will rise back up.

The only way to stop it is to take all guns away, but it's 'merica, so that will never happen.

Actually the only way to reduce crime is to decriminalize all illegal drugs so that cartels don't have a monopoly on their sales, and so that the price of drugs decreases, allowing for more competition in the market. Drug prohibition is responsible for the majority of the violent crime in the United States. We need to target the incentives for violence rather than the means to enact it (there will always be some way to kill.) 

Not that I care either way, really, I don't.  But, banning firearms seems to have had a sustained impact on lowering the murder rate in Australia.