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Shadow1980 said:
 

Does anybody listen to anything I say?


The problem isn't so much that you no one is listening to you, or that you aren't making valid points, it's that you are directing them towards zero.

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cheshirescat said:
Shadow1980 said:
 

Does anybody listen to anything I say?


The problem isn't so much that you no one is listening to you, or that you aren't making valid points, it's that you are directing them towards zero.


Pretty much what he said ^10,000

OT: What the hell happened to Japan? Half the sales week over week? Fur real? :O

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Media Create back 30:

21 3DS (Including version included) and Animal Crossing Tobidase Nintendo
22 3DS Xintiandi lead Harvest Moon Marvelous AQL
23 Vita (I'm including Limited Edition) Hakuouki SSL ~ sweet school life ~ Idea Factory
24 PS3 Grand Theft Auto V Teikutsu Interactive Japan
25 PS3 (Including Limited Edition) Winning Post 8 Tecmo Koei Games
26 3DS (Including version included) NEW Love Plus + KONAMI
27 Vita Pro Baseball Spirits 2014 KONAMI
28 3DS Hero bank SEGA
29 Wii U Super Mario 3D World Nintendo
Thirty 3DS (Including version included) Monster Hunter 4 Capcom
31 Vita Soul Sacrifice delta SCE
32 PS4 Battlefield 4 Electronic Arts
33 PS4 NAtURAL DOCtRINE taking out pack (Natural doctrine) Contact Kadokawa Games
34 Vita Plus atelier of Asha 
(including Limited Edition) Renkinjutsushi of the earth of Twilight
Gust
35 3DS Tsubasa giant of humanity - the end of the march Spike CHUNSOFT
36 Vita (Including Limited Edition) Winning Post 8 Tecmo Koei Games
37 PS4 NAtURAL DOCtRINE (Natural doctrine) Kadokawa Games
38 PS3 NAtURAL DOCtRINE (Natural doctrine) Kadokawa Games
39 Wii U Donkey Kong tropical freeze Nintendo
Forty 3DS Survival battle with Shinobu in combat legend! NAMCO BANDAI Games
41 3DS Mario Kart 7 Nintendo
42 3DS (Including version included) New Super Mario Bros. 2 Nintendo
43 3DS (Including Limited Edition) Arino of CX3-chome game center NAMCO BANDAI Games
44 3DS (Including version included) Tomodachi Collection new life Nintendo
45 PS3 Mobile Suit Gundam EXTREME VS. FULL BOOST 
(including Limited Edition)
NAMCO BANDAI Games
46 PS3 Yakuza Restoration! SEGA
47 3DS (Including Limited Edition) Hatsune Miku Project mirai 2 SEGA
48 Vita Phantasy Star Online 2 Episode 2 
Deluxe package
SEGA
49 3DS Disney Magic Castle My Happy Life 
(including version included)
NAMCO BANDAI Games
Fifty PS4 Tomb Raider-definition active Edition Square Enix


Shadow1980 said:

Zero999 said:

considering price and games, that difference was well expected. and on another perspective:

Wii U first 3 weeks = 520k

Ps4 first 7 weeks = 510k

Does anybody listen to anything I say? I've explained on multiple occasions to you and several others that these Wii U vs. PS4 comparisons are completely invalid because one launched in a December and the other in a February, which does make a difference. Honestly, I'm getting sick of repeating myself, but I'll try one more time to get through to you. Look at these charts:

*charts*

*more text*

Not that I want to defend zero's comparison, but you can't say is "completely invalid". Going by that logic, we wouldn't be able to compare anything, if we took into consideration all factors, every console releases under different scenarios making all comparisons between them "invalid". While it's important to note the difference of release dates, it is possible to do those comparisons, not only with WiiU but also with PS3. Or, you could just sit there and say that it's "preposterous" and we will wait until it has its first christmas.



noname2200 said:
outlawauron said:

Well, the PS3 got them last generation and will the PS4 doing well in the West, I think they'll still get the majority of JRPGs that don't go mobile. With this start, it'll be a rough generation for consoles. I just hope it has enough to get it past 10 million lifetime.

I agree on all fronts, although the open question is just how many JRPGs are going to be made this generation overall...

It's going to be very interesting. Even with major success a lot of publishers are having with mobile, I still think there's a place for console games. For every major success, there's been a major flop, so I don't think any major publisher will revert to backing the platform exclusively. Surprisingly, I think Namco will be one of the PS4's biggest supporters in a few years as their mobile RPGs have flopped for the most part.



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spurgeonryan said:

Hopefully it will have legs or this is the end of Just Dance beasting on Nintendo systems for now.

It is an exclusive in Japan and is published by Nintendo, but the console is just too expensive for the type of gamer that enjoys this title, it needs to reduce at least 50-100 U$ so more people picks this game up.



Shadow1980 said:
benao87 said:

Not that I want to defend zero's comparison, but you can't say is "completely invalid". Going by that logic, we wouldn't be able to compare anything, if we took into consideration all factors, every console releases under different scenarios making all comparisons between them "invalid". While it's important to note the difference of release dates, it is possible to do those comparisons, not only with WiiU but also with PS3. Or, you could just sit there and say that it's "preposterous" and we will wait until it has its first christmas.

It is invalid. First off, as I explained, weekly sales from the first couple of months exhibit different behavior when the system is released outside the holiday shopping season. It's pointless to try to imply anything about the PS4 selling less in its second or third or fourth week than the Wii U did because it was obvious before the PS4 even came out that it would have a huge drop its second week, in keeping with the "hockey stick" curve we see with systems released outside the fourth quarter. Even comparing systems launching around the same time, while a more appropriate comparison, is still largely pointless.

 

*wall of texts with charts*

Wtf, I not reading all that.

It is invalid, I never said it wasn't. I'm just referring to your wording, it is not "completely invalid".



first day sellthrough {2014.04.10}

[PS3] 3rd Super Robot Wars Z: Jigoku-Hen - 70%
[PSV] 3rd Super Robot Wars Z: Jigoku-Hen - 70%
[PSV] Mato Kurenai Yuugekitai: Tokyo Twilight Ghosthunters - 70%
[PS3] Mato Kurenai Yuugekitai: Tokyo Twilight Ghosthunters - 50-60%
[360] Titalfall - 60%
[PS3] Dream C Club Gogo. - 50%
[3DS] Crayon Shin-Chan: Arashi o Yobu Kasukabe Eiga Stars! - 30-40%
[3DS] A Penguin's Troubles + Bakushou! Roulette Battle!!

new releases

{2014.04.14}

[PS4] Final Fantasy XIV Online: A Real Reborn # (Square Enix) (¥3.394)
[PS4] Final Fantasy XIV Online: A Real Reborn [Collector's Edition] (Square Enix) (¥10.584)

{2014.04.17}

[3DS] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney 1-2-3: Naruhodo Selection # (Capcom) (¥4.309)
[3DS] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney 1-2-3: Naruhodo Selection [Limited Edition] (Capcom) (¥5.389)
[3DS] Detective Conan: Phantom Rapsody (Bandai Namco Games) (¥6.145)
[3DS] Style Savvy: Trendsetters - Tokimeki Up! (Nintendo) (¥4.936)

[PSP] Rewrite (Prototype) (¥6.264)
[PSP] Jyuzaengi: Engetsu Sangokuden 2 # (Idea Factory) (¥6.264)
[PSP] Jyuzaengi: Engetsu Sangokuden 2 [Limited Edition] (Idea Factory) (¥8.424)
[PSP] Jyuzaengi: Engetsu Sangokuden 2/Jyuzaengi: Engetsu Sangokuden - Twin Pack (Idea Factory) (¥9.504)



PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m

Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m

Zero999 said:
Fusioncode said:
Zero999 said:

considering price and games, that difference was well expected. and on another perspective:

Wii U first 3 weeks = 520k

Ps4 first 7 weeks = 510k

You expected the PS4 to launch at 140k, so I'm assuming you were very impressed with it's sales right Zero? It did shatter your expectations. 

it's incredibly low, just like I expected. one week won't change that.


Wait, what? That's not what you expected. Nowhere near what you expected. It sold 320k and you predicted 140k. It sold more than double what you expected. I predicted that Modnation racers would sell 3m. It sold closer to 1m. My prediction was way off. I can't go around saying "well, I expected it to sell well, which it did, as I expected". 340k was by no means low. Why is it so hard for people to admit that they're wrong?



Shadow1980 said:
benao87 said:

Wtf, I not reading all that.

It is invalid, I never said it wasn't. I'm just referring to your wording, it is not "completely invalid".

"Wall of text"? Really? It's just three short paragraphs. It took me all of two minutes to read it. What is with people responding anything longer than a Tweet with things like "wall of text" or "I'm not reading a novel" or "TL;DR"? A handful of paragraphs is hardly War and Peace. Sorry, but that's a really freakin' big pet peeve of mine when people react negatively to anything longer than a single paragraph.

First of all, thanks for the great posts. It's nice to see someone putting some effort to provide evidence and back up their claims instead of replying as if they're tweeting , as you said (not referring to anyone in particular). 

I too strongly dislike the whole "tl;dr" attitude. Having said that, bena has a point. The comparison is invalid, but not completely invalid. It's not comparing animals with oranges, but it's more like apples and oranges. Invalid, but not completely invalid.