LTD sales I would put my bets on the PS Vita simply because it seems more future-proof and looking at Sony's history of keeping a console alive much longer than Nintendo.

It's the most powerful handheld against the least powerful console of same generation. Wii U is more likely to be discontinued before the PS Vita.

Wii U can pass Vita's total numbers late 2014 or somewhere in 2015 if the first party games are really effective at moving units, though.

At the rate It's going, never. It's below 360 for crying out loud!

It might lifetime, but there is no way in hell it will during 2014. It would have to quadruple its current baseline from the release of Mario Kart to close the 2 million+ gap.

VGhippy said: It might lifetime, but there is no way in hell it will during 2014. It would have to quadruple its current baseline from the release of Mario Kart to close the 2 million+ gap.

It's actually the opposite. might close the gap with Vita or even surpass it but there is no way wii u would win lifetime considering how long Sony's systems are supported and Nintendo's gets discontinued soon.

Had Smash Bros been an exclusive and not delayed, I'd say definitely. Problem is that Nintendo themselves even seem to be trying to distance themselves further and further from the console. All they're doing at this point is wasting money and alienating the people who purchased it. Wii-U needs to go, and Nintendo needs to devote themselves to the handheld market.

Sensei said: LTD sales I would put my bets on the PS Vita simply because it seems more future-proof and looking at Sony's history of keeping a console alive much longer than Nintendo. It's the most powerful handheld against the least powerful console of same generation. Wii U is more likely to be discontinued before the PS Vita. Wii U can pass Vita's total numbers late 2014 or somewhere in 2015 if the first party games are really effective at moving units, though.

I would usually agree with u about Playstation being more future proof based on PS1/PS2/PS3/PSP all having 10 years or so on the market but im not sure if the same can be said for Vita. Vita is doing reasonably well in Japan and will have a healthy full cycle there due to the countries handheld nature and a steady stream of Japanese centric games but its doing pretty horrible in the west with nothing in the forseeable future that will get it out of this rut. According to the most recent NPD it only sold 10-15k last month in USA, the biggest thing it has going for it in that region is a Borderlands 2 bundle but really how much will a 2 year old port help it? It doesnt seem to be fairing much better in Europe either. I cant imagine a long life in those regions with those type of sales, western third parties arent supporting it and Sony doesnt seem to be releasing many games for it either so as of now there is nothing to improve its situation in the west. On the other hand while Wii U isnt doing very well in any region, it seems to be pretty consistant across the board. Also it has some things lined up with potential to improve sales or at the very least keep them from falling. It still has a decent amount of Nintendo's big hitters like Mario Kart/Smash Bros/Zelda yet to release (which is the reason most people buy Nintendo consoles) and those games are pretty popular in every region. Also it has some Japanese centric games thay may help it out there like X, Hyrule Warriors, SMTxFE. Another thing is Wii U has yet to recieve a major price yet, technically it did last year but the base price remained the same at $299 so it was more like adding value to a current bundle while Vita has already had a major price cut. So Wii U will likely have a normal life cycle of 5 years give or take a year in all regions while Vita may have a long healthy cycle in Japan but if things dont change soon in the west I dont think it will last more than 2 more years.

I dont know why my last post isnt showing seperate paragraphs.

DialgaMarine said: Had Smash Bros been an exclusive and not delayed, I'd say definitely. Problem is that Nintendo themselves even seem to be trying to distance themselves further and further from the console. All they're doing at this point is wasting money and alienating the people who purchased it. Wii-U needs to go, and Nintendo needs to devote themselves to the handheld market.

The Wii U version was not delayed, since the beginning they have said it could have a staggered release

zorg1000 said: oniyide said: Nem said: I think it can, unless Sony does a 180 and announces loads of new titles with mass appeal. Sadly i dont see that happening. Vita is a great piece of hardware but it has a niche market of japanese games and indies. Even though those Tales of and Phantasy Stars are nowhere to be seen. -.- The Wii U is getting several high profile games this year, added to the ones it got last year and those that are upcoming. It definitly has a brighter future than the Vita, despite all the constant doom talks. Maybe but considering this is pretty much the same thing people have been saying all of 2013 and Wii U still gets beat regularly by Vita in the charts Im going to remain skeptical. According to this site they sold basically the same amount last year with Wii U slightly ahead, it doesnt matter that Vita outsells it on a typical week if Wii U is able to soundly beat it over the holidays.

yeah it does matter. Because the Vita is still 2 MILLION ahead. You think the holidays is going to cover more that that? It hasnt so far and i see no reason why that would change.

zorg1000 said: Alby_da_Wolf said: zorg1000 said: [...] According to this site they sold basically the same amount last year with Wii U slightly ahead, it doesnt matter that Vita outsells it on a typical week if Wii U is able to soundly beat it over the holidays. It depends on how much soundly: between 23 Nov and 28 Dec 2014 Wii U was able to beat PSV by ~490k, then, since the beginning of January, PSV started beating it almost every week by between a few k and a few tens k. At this pace, admitting the yearly balance even be in Wii U's favour, it will take years to fill the gap. Gap that at the end of Dec 2013 Wii U managed to shrink to less than 1.9M and now is already above 2M and slowly crawling up. Go back and look even further. At the end of 2012 Vita had a 1.9m lead and outsold Wii U most weeks in 2013. Wii U had a better holiday and was able to erase the lead Vita accumilated over the non holiday months bringing the gap back to 1.9m. The same is likely to happen year, Vita winning most weeks due to solid sales in Japan with Wii U having a better holiday.

Just checked, you're right, at the beginning of 2014 the gap was almost the same as at the beginning of 2013... So they'll follow this trend forever! PSV will increase its lead during the slower seasons and during holidays Wii U will reset it to little less than 1.9M! In the short term this could be awkward but entertaining, in the long term it will become the most awkward and boring fight of 8th gen.    And not much different from a Formula 1 race few years ago.    Might as well watch the hypnotoad.