It seems like that even the "GOTG" has not saved the xbone and that March NPD is far from what microsoft was expecting. By the rate this price is tumbling we might soon see the xbone+4games+48months of xbox live for as little as 299.99 dollars.

Kind of like "the war" was over when 360 had a lead of some 8mn? PS4 will most likely win this generation but claiming win when not even a year has passed is very premature.

The only difference is that playstation is a global brand whereas the xbone's only chance of success lies within the walls of UK and US. To be frank i think UK is along its way to becoming playstation dominant again so only hope for xbone is US.

You seriously feel that you're in any kind of position to say something like this?

Not only is it absolutely ridiculous to call people on a gaming forum out for discussing gaming rather than playing 24/7, if you yourself regularly post on it as well, but also how many post of yours sounded something like this: "Look the PS4 has been in stock at Amazon for 18 hours now, demand is finally over (subtext: now that pesky little console, whose success is bothering me so much, will finally fall and be rightfully beaten by the one true next gen console)"?

This is a pretty nice deal. If I had the money, I'd probably jump on it.

Care to back that up? The only sources we have for this estimate that in fact the PS4 is cheaper to manufacture than the X1, a quick google search is enough to find that out.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/11/27/teardown-reveals-xbox-one-costs-55-90-more-to-make-than-ps4

Can we hope MS drops make Sony drop price sooner so I can expend less on buying my 8th gen console?

Only way Sony even considers dropping the price, it's if MS drops to $400.

I don't even know how to respond to this. Lol, come on dude, are you serious?

Well... 450,00 + TF + Live makes it 60,00 under PS4... if it get sustained or just morphs into barebone X1 for 400,00 it would have approximately the same final effect on price... don't think it will drop PS4 sales much, but it certainly would raise X1 sales... Personally I think they will start dropping in 2015 IF they can really raise production in a way that the lower margin get justified by big sales and nice profit... Don't think it will come early as in X1 case.