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chapset said:
according to this week sales it's not to gamers

Have we really come full circle to the ancient times of the PS2 where any and all objective arguments can be responded with "PS sells more, your argument is invalid?" Would it hurt to just say "Huh MS is really putting the deals out there". lol



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fatslob-:O said:
sales2099 said:
bubblegamer said:
In his biased opinion. Gamers worldwide disagree.

Sigh. Purchasing habits are born out of bias. This is actually objectively comparing the value of the two consoles. It isn't offensive and makes reasonable points.

$450 with a $60 game and expensive Kinect vs $400 with no game or PS camera. It isn't totally crazy to say that the Xbox provides value.

No need to be defensive when PS4 is still outselling regardless.

But there's also no need to be in denial that consumers think that PS4 is still the better deal ...

FACT: There's is no objective way to compare value when all of it is determined by consumers. 

Exactly. But try explaining that to him. He actually gets sad when Microsoft sells less consoles than the competition. And no i'm not making it up, he has said this himself.



Mr Puggsly said:
bubblegamer said:
In his biased opinion. Gamers worldwide disagree.


Value and top selling are not the same thing.

He's not being biased, you just don't know the difference.

Your tune was a little different in the Xbox 360 days. What changed?



bubblegamer said:

Exactly. But try explaining that to him. He actually gets sad when Microsoft sells less consoles than the competition. And no i'm not making it up, he has said this himself.

That's what I kinda like about him.

He'll turn the slightest thing into a console war and it will be nice to view to feast on seeing playstation and xbox fans stabbing each other apart because of it. 



fatslob-:O said:
sales2099 said:
bubblegamer said:
In his biased opinion. Gamers worldwide disagree.

Sigh. Purchasing habits are born out of bias. This is actually objectively comparing the value of the two consoles. It isn't offensive and makes reasonable points.

$450 with a $60 game and expensive Kinect vs $400 with no game or PS camera. It isn't totally crazy to say that the Xbox provides value.

No need to be defensive when PS4 is still outselling regardless.

But there's also no need to be in denial that consumers think that PS4 is still the better deal ...

FACT: There's is no objective way to compare value when all of it is determined by consumers. 

You get someone who has 0 interest in either product to do a comparison for a objective review.....or say, someone who has the rare ability of having no bias?

As said above, Value and top selling are not the same thing.



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sales2099 said:
chapset said:
according to this week sales it's not to gamers

Have we really come full circle to the ancient times of the PS2 where any and all objective arguments can be responded with "PS sells more, your argument is invalid?" Would it hurt to just say "Huh MS is really putting the deals out there". lol

Huh MS is really putting the deals out there, too bad they gamers fail to see the values in them, i mean you get to play titanfall for free for one whole month and you get a camera, so sweet



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sales2099 said:

You get someone who has 0 interest in either product to do a comparison for a objective review.....or say, someone who has the rare ability of having no bias?

As said above, Value and top selling are not the same thing.

Too bad that it is cause otherwise if a product is selling like shit then it's clear that no customers see value in it. Values are defined by consumers, not some wishful thinking on the part of a journalist or some industry insiders. 



Mr Puggsly said:
bubblegamer said:
In his biased opinion. Gamers worldwide disagree.


Value and top selling are not the same thing.

He's not being biased, you just don't know the difference.

It is actually. Value is completely subjective and what adds value and what doesn't is different for every individual.

When the PS4 is the best selling system that means, that it has the best value to the most people, it's just that simple.

So when the author says the X1 gives the most value right now, then that is completely his "biased" (cause everybody is biased in some way) opinion.



bubblegamer said:
Mr Puggsly said:
bubblegamer said:
In his biased opinion. Gamers worldwide disagree.


Value and top selling are not the same thing.

He's not being biased, you just don't know the difference.

Your tune was a little different in the Xbox 360 days. What changed?

You change tunes when you loose? Forgot PS3 early years much? Your kind ain't immune either.



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It's better value if you want and prefer Xbox One, it isn't better value if you want and prefer PS4

Value isn't just monetary