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Rocksteady on Batman Arkham Knight - 'Wii U could not meet gameplay objectives'

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DerNebel said:
leyendax69 said:
Why are not they honest? People is not stupid, there is no wii u version because they know it would sell like crap.

Honestly what does it matter what they say? Some Nintendo fans would lose their shit no matter what reason they give.

They'd be called incompetent, lazy, stupid etc. by some geniuses on forums anyway, it's just that the reason for that would change from "they can't get their game to run on the Wii U" to "they can't make a game that'd sell on the Wii U."

I can't quite understand how Nintendo fans don't sympathise with third parties even a little. The fact is third party games do not sell well enough, thus it doesn't make sense for them to come to the platform. The industry is not a frigging charity, do they just expect them to spend time developing a sku that won't make them money?! Just because?



 

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DerNebel said:
leyendax69 said:
Why are not they honest? People is not stupid, there is no wii u version because they know it would sell like crap.

Honestly what does it matter what they say? Some Nintendo fans would lose their shit no matter what reason they give.

They'd be called incompetent, lazy, stupid etc. by some geniuses on forums anyway, it's just that the reason for that would change from "they can't get their game to run on the Wii U" to "they can't make a game that'd sell on the Wii U."

Yes, some. And for the record I'm not a Nintendo fan, but if I were a wild Nintendo supporter and wii u owner, this kind of statement would bother me as hell.



The game would sell like crap on wii u anyways. Wii u is a crap system. 3 out of the 4 systems have been pretty much failures. The wii was a fluke and it's more clear than ever. Nintendo has to change it's approach. People don't want to just keep playing updated versions of old franchises

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roman838892 said:
The game would sell like crap on wii u anyways. Wii u is a crap system. 3 out of the 4 systems have been pretty much failures. The wii was a fluke and it's more clear than ever. Nintendo has to change it's approach. People don't want to just keep playing updated versions of old franchises

OMG... 

please tell me its sarcasm...



I'm not sure why people are so hostile to this. It sounds pretty reasonable to me.

If the environment is extensive and highly detailed, and you're going to be traveling through it at high speeds, that's going to require a lot of loading. It makes sense that it could run into bottlenecks on some systems.



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Seece said:
DerNebel said:

Honestly what does it matter what they say? Some Nintendo fans would lose their shit no matter what reason they give.

They'd be called incompetent, lazy, stupid etc. by some geniuses on forums anyway, it's just that the reason for that would change from "they can't get their game to run on the Wii U" to "they can't make a game that'd sell on the Wii U."

I can't quite understand how Nintendo fans don't sympathise with third parties even a little. The fact is third party games do not sell well enough, thus it doesn't make sense for them to come to the platform. The industry is not a frigging charity, do they just expect them to spend time developing a sku that won't make them money?! Just because?

Well, admitting that third party games just don't do well enough, would be like admitting that a lot of the blame is on Nintendo (not making their system sell) and its fans (not really buying third party games) on this, I suppose some Nintendo fans just can't do this, so shifting the blame towards third parties is a way easier solution. That's my theory at least.



I think I'm get tiny it, when they Said, "not like people is thinking", they don't talk about visuals, they mean the "space", a Wii U version could look like the PS4 version, but the city won't be 5 times bigger, and the batmobile wouldn,t run at a every high speed!, it's not the visuals which worries me, but the "space", now I get it, if only Wii U had an expansión Pack



Mythmaker1 said:
I'm not sure why people are so hostile to this. It sounds pretty reasonable to me.

If the environment is extensive and highly detailed, and you're going to be traveling through it at high speeds, that's going to require a lot of loading. It makes sense that it could run into bottlenecks on some systems.


just scale the textures down, reduce the visibiltiy and pop up distance, less vehicles and persons on the street, less buildings and make the batmobile run slower.

problem solved ...

it can be done, not saying that the devs are lazy or incompetent, but I guess the game wont bring the big $ for them on the wiiu ...

Kappa



Zero999 said:
Cobretti2 said:
wtf? if I read correctly they skipped the Wii U because they couldn't make the batmobile ran fast?

Well fuck me dead N64 had Star Wars Racer. Those things traveled at INSANE speeds.

And the F-ZERO cars traveled at 1000+km per hour. HOLY SHIT, SNES > PS4 confirmed.


Shit man this made me laugh, i hope you were not serious.

Its not the speed that the problem, its loading in the city blocks fast enough, because the ram is to small to have lots of them loaded in at once.

See infamous, Delson can move at 18m per second, this number was chosen because that the fastest speed the console can load the land blocks in without him running off the map.

Yes Wii U could handle the game but they would have to slow the car down to load the land blocks in fast enough, which is not a compromise they wanted to make.



So in short, WiiU doesn't have Arkham Knight because the car wouldn't feel fast enough? Amazing