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What does Obama hope to accomplish? alterior motive?

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Kane1389 said:
bubblegamer said:

It's not just the government, the population is quite bad as well. Last week there was a documentary about russian groups that go around and catch gay people and make them say they are pedophiles while being filmed. They would beat them up until they would submit and then begin filming them.

It was disgusting and nobody they were asking on the streets seemed to care. The police even arrest everyone defending them under the law against "gay propaganda" i'll never look at russians the same way again. And now this....


Great way to judge a nation of 150 million people, by learning about a few psychopaths. It's not like queers are getting attacked and persecuted in any country other than Russia

I didn't say everyone of them is like that. My ex bf is russian, but the majority certainly is this way. And this happening elsewhere doesn't excuse it happening there, now does it? Unless you view Russia and Uganda with the same eyes.



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Kane1389 said:
bubblegamer said:

It's not just the government, the population is quite bad as well. Last week there was a documentary about russian groups that go around and catch gay people and make them say they are pedophiles while being filmed. They would beat them up until they would submit and then begin filming them.

It was disgusting and nobody they were asking on the streets seemed to care. The police even arrest everyone defending them under the law against "gay propaganda" i'll never look at russians the same way again. And now this....


Great way to judge a nation of 150 million people, by learning about a few psychopaths. It's not like queers are getting attacked and persecuted in any country other than Russia

I have to agree with bubblegamer

Russia is leading in number of the worst things :

skinheads, aids, drugs & alcohol consumption, homicides, rapes, etc.

 

russia is being brain drain because of all this, the educated young russians are fleeing the country as soon as they find an oppportunity, 

 

and also the democracy being obviously a farce, there is no hope of these things getting better anytime soon 

even Kasparov couldn't attempt to compete properly...

KGB general says Kasparov's life in danger[edit]

Speaking about Kasparov, former KGB general Oleg Kalugin in 2007 remarked, "I do not talk in details—people who knew them are all dead now because they were vocal, they were open. I am quiet. There is only one man who is vocal and he may be in trouble: [former] world chess champion [Garry] Kasparov. He has been very outspoken in his attacks on Putin and I believe that he is probably next on the list."[67]



Obama is an idiot, this is not something new. The best bet would be to wait for someone more competent because nothing productive will get done with him at the wheel.

 

fighter said:

I have to agree with bubblegamer

Russia is leading in number of the worst things :

skinheads, aids, drugs & alcohol consumption, homicides, rapes, etc.

 

russia is being brain drain because of all this, the educated young russians are fleeing the country as soon as they find an oppportunity, 

and also the democracy being obviously a farce, there is no hope of these things getting better anytime soon 

even Kasparov couldn't attempt to compete properly...

 

just so you know, The USA has a higher alcohol consumption rate per capita than Russia, Countries such as German, Belgium, Iceland and even isreal, they have higher Rape rates, France and UK are actually more drug addicted countries than Russia, if you exclude Alcohol from Drugs, then Canada,USA and France have much higher drug use. For Skinheads (if I understand correct what that is) would be UK, France and Germany. But Russia does have it on homicides and aids... at least with in the developed countries.



ikki5 said:
fighter said:

I have to agree with bubblegamer

Russia is leading in number of the worst things :

skinheads, aids, drugs & alcohol consumption, homicides, rapes, etc.

 

russia is being brain drain because of all this, the educated young russians are fleeing the country as soon as they find an oppportunity, 

and also the democracy being obviously a farce, there is no hope of these things getting better anytime soon 

even Kasparov couldn't attempt to compete properly...

 

just so you know, The USA has a higher alcohol consumption rate per capita than Russia, Countries such as German, Belgium, Iceland and even isreal, they have higher Rape rates, France and UK are actually more drug addicted countries than Russia, if you exclude Alcohol from Drugs, then Canada,USA and France have much higher drug use. For Skinheads (if I understand correct what that is) would be UK, France and Germany. But Russia does have it on homicides and aids... at least with in the developed countries.

Thank you man! You've saved me from answering that idiotic claims!



ikki5 said:

Obama is an idiot, this is not something new. The best bet would be to wait for someone more competent because nothing productive will get done with him at the wheel.

 

fighter said:

I have to agree with bubblegamer

Russia is leading in number of the worst things :

skinheads, aids, drugs & alcohol consumption, homicides, rapes, etc.

 

russia is being brain drain because of all this, the educated young russians are fleeing the country as soon as they find an oppportunity, 

and also the democracy being obviously a farce, there is no hope of these things getting better anytime soon 

even Kasparov couldn't attempt to compete properly...

 

just so you know, The USA has a higher alcohol consumption rate per capita than Russia, Countries such as German, Belgium, Iceland and even isreal, they have higher Rape rates, France and UK are actually more drug addicted countries than Russia, if you exclude Alcohol from Drugs, then Canada,USA and France have much higher drug use. For Skinheads (if I understand correct what that is) would be UK, France and Germany. But Russia does have it on homicides and aids... at least with in the developed countries.

u sure about homicides? must be close to the us numbers.



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bubblegamer said:

It's not just the government, the population is quite bad as well. Last week there was a documentary about russian groups that go around and catch gay people and make them say they are pedophiles while being filmed. They would beat them up until they would submit and then begin filming them.

It was disgusting and nobody they were asking on the streets seemed to care. The police even arrest everyone defending them under the law against "gay propaganda" i'll never look at russians the same way again. And now this....

Its not just Russia.You'll find the same way of thinking in many parts of the world. Some countries even give gay people the death sentence just for being gay. 



    

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All the information on https://twitter.com/spainbuca was wiped out. Oops.

Some screens was made of course. Hope the guy will be alright, he's a hero.



Also an interesting thing. Route of fallen plane was changed 17th of July by Urkaine air control - to move into warzone.



Sharu said:
LiquorandGunFun said:

Now the mighty russians have shot down a civilian plane. Good job assholes.

Spanish avia man @spainbuca writes in his twitter from Kiev that the plane was shot by Ukraine military. So FU.

If anybody could properly translate his tweets from Spanish to English that wouldbe very nice.

Great retort. Its thier fault they always have been sloppy since the soviet union days.



 

LiquorandGunFun said:
Sharu said:
LiquorandGunFun said:

Now the mighty russians have shot down a civilian plane. Good job assholes.

Spanish avia man @spainbuca writes in his twitter from Kiev that the plane was shot by Ukraine military. So FU.

If anybody could properly translate his tweets from Spanish to English that wouldbe very nice.

Great retort. Its thier fault they always have been sloppy since the soviet union days.

Yes, since the Soviet Union days Ukraine military was always sloppy. They even shot down a Russian civil plane (flying to Israel) before, I think it was 2003...

Also look here:

http://rt.com/news/173784-ukraine-plane-malaysian-russia/

On Thursday, when a Malaysian Airlines plane was apparently shot down over Ukraine, a Ukrainian Buk anti-aircraft missile battery was operational in the region, the Russian Defense Ministry said, contradicting Kiev’s statements.

The battery was deployed at a site from which it could have fired a missile at the airliner, the ministry said in a statement. It said radiation from the battery’s radar was detected by the Russian military.

“The Russian equipment detected throughout July 17 the activity of a Kupol radar, deployed as part of a Buk-M1 battery near Styla [a village some 30km south of Donetsk],” the ministry said in a statement.

The ministry said the radar could be providing tracking information to another battery deployed in the region, which was at a firing distance from the plane’s flight path.

Earlier Kiev said it could not have fired a missile at the passing civilian plane because it had no Buk missile launchers deployed in the region. At the same time the Ukrainians said the militias had no Buk systems in their hands, according to a statement from the country’s Prosecutor General.