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Fusioncode said:
The GBA had a 3 year lifecycle so I don't see why the WiiU can't. I think a new console could launch in 2015, but 2016 is the more likely option.


The GBA didnt have competition though. Nintendo cant launch a new console just as the opposition is at full momentum. It would be ignored. I imagine in 2015 the ps4 will be getting all its biggest games.

2017 would be a better time for a Wii U successor, as both the PS4 and XO would have peaked and probably beginning to decline. Prior to that they could release a new  handheld I guess. 2015 would be a good time for the 3DS successor.



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Zero999 said:
Seece said:
VitroBahllee said:
Nintendo's biggest problem right now is they are struggling to learn how to develop in a reasonable timeframe for HD. A new platform probably wouldn't help.

Nah, their biggest problem is figuring out who they want to target their systems at. WiiU especially is suffering from this.

your proof? GAMES is always the problem for a platform that isn't selling well. there's no need to come up with all that random stuff.


They had plenty releases in the last 6 months. Pikmen, 101, Sonic,  Sonic and Mario, Mario 3D land and now DK.  To say its simply games is too shallow, quality as well as who those games appeal are important. 



Anfebious said:
I knew this was a Nintendo thread before I entered.


Naturally, its a thread in the Nintendo forums and it says Nintendo in the thread title.

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They cant release a new platform without software for it. You have to look at what Nintendo's main teams are doing, and what they have been doing since they released games.

EAD Kyoto

SDG1 wont have another game ready for launch realistically until 2016, because MK8 is releasing this Year.

SDG2 probably wont have another game ready for launch until 2016, because they have pushed out 3 games in the last 2 Years. AC: New Leaf, Nintendo Land and Wii Sports Club. They are likely developing a proper Animal Crossing title for Wii U as we speak.

SDG3 are currently working on Zelda Wii U.

SDG4 have released 3 games in the last 2 Years. NSMB2, NSMBU and Pikmin 3. Its likely that they wont have a new title ready for a good Year or 2.

SDG5 are the Wii Fit studio, and they just released Wii Fit for Wii U.

EAD Tokyo have just released Super Mario 3D World, so we wont be seeing anything new from them for a good 2 Years.

Retro just released DK Tropical Freeze and are also developing another Wii U game.

As far as Im aware, these are the "big" Nintendo development teams. Something from these teams will have to be ready for the launch of Nintendo's next console home or handheld.

Realistically, looking at Nintendo's own dev teams, we aint gonna see a new Nintendo platform for another 2 Years. 2016 is my bet.



                            

To answer your question: more than likely yes.

I anticipate a "Wii U Air" tablet. Functions as entire WiiU console/gamepad, but is totally portable unlike the current gamepad. And has digital only sales. Comes with an HDMI dongle. And you can buy wireless sensor bar to connect additional wii-motes and controllers.



I predict NX launches in 2017 - not 2016

Seece said:

3DS is down in the US 86k (NPD), down in Japan about 600k? It's just Europe we're unsure of, can't imagine why it would be up there when it's down everywhere else

@ Nintenticle - t's the fact it's down 50% YOY that is worrying, if that trend continues it won't be above Vita or PS4 next year ...

This is where you should know you're going too far.



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milkyjoe said:
Seece said:

3DS is down in the US 86k (NPD), down in Japan about 600k? It's just Europe we're unsure of, can't imagine why it would be up there when it's down everywhere else

@ Nintenticle - t's the fact it's down 50% YOY that is worrying, if that trend continues it won't be above Vita or PS4 next year ...

This is where you should know you're going too far.

I'm talking about Japan. Are you aware of YTD's there before you made your post?? 356k for Vita and 627k for 3DS. My coment was correct, if 3DS continues the trend of being down 50% it'll be below Vita (if Vita stays the same of course, but that's not the point.)





 

Seece said:

I'm talking about Japan. Are you aware of YTD's there before you made your post?? 356k for Vita and 627k for 3DS. My coment was correct, if 3DS continues the trend of being down 50% it'll be below Vita (if Vita stays the same of course, but that's not the point.)



Yup. These are the worst 3DS sales in Japan since what.... 2011? Vita sales appear decent because they were 10k or well under for essentially 2 years, but they still aren't good enough to represent a sustained threat, especially as there's yet another 3DS exclusive Monster Hunter later this year, with Pokemon "Z" likely to follow next year judging by prior release schedules. One big game like that every now and then is enough to stay comfortably ahead, because the Vita just doesn't get those games.

But anyway, if you want to seriously suggest a scenario where Vita > 3DS for a sustained period anytime soon without any truly major franchise support, we'll just stick you over in the corner with Gilgamesh.



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milkyjoe said:
Seece said:

I'm talking about Japan. Are you aware of YTD's there before you made your post?? 356k for Vita and 627k for 3DS. My coment was correct, if 3DS continues the trend of being down 50% it'll be below Vita (if Vita stays the same of course, but that's not the point.)



Yup. These are the worst 3DS sales in Japan since what.... 2011? Vita sales appear decent because they were 10k or well under for essentially 2 years, but they still aren't good enough to represent a sustained threat, especially as there's yet another 3DS exclusive Monster Hunter later this year, with Pokemon "Z" likely to follow next year judging by prior release schedules. One big game like that every now and then is enough to stay comfortably ahead, because the Vita just doesn't get those games.

But anyway, if you want to seriously suggest a scenario where Vita > 3DS for a sustained period anytime soon without any truly major franchise support, we'll just stick you over in the corner with Gilgamesh.

Ah so the recent trends mean nothing to you, ok. You never would have predicted 3DS would be down 50% YoY on average weekly, and you despite this happening you don't entertain the idea it could happen again? What did pokemon ect do for 3DS exactly? The console has been down YOY for ages now. There is nothing to suggest 3DS doesn't fall to 20k weekly in Japan next year (which isn't even down 50%) and the Vita sustains around the level. Heck it already is without software.

Don't try and make out it's an outlandish claim, I've already proven you wrong once. Also don't forget that PSP took off late in Japan but when it did, it was a powerhouse.



 

Seece said:

Ah so the recent trends mean nothing to you, ok. You never would have predicted 3DS would be down 50% YoY on average weekly, and you despite this happening you don't entertain the idea it could happen again? What did pokemon ect do for 3DS exactly? The console has been down YOY for ages now. There is nothing to suggest 3DS doesn't fall to 20k weekly in Japan next year (which isn't even down 50%) and the Vita sustains around the level. Heck it already is without software.

Don't try and make out it's an outlandish claim, I've already proven you wrong once. Also don't forget that PSP took off late in Japan but when it did, it was a powerhouse.

Yeah, Pokemon did nothing for the 3DS, it only sold over 200k in Japan that week (which is 10x your predicted weekly baseline there). Monster Hunter does nothing either, MH4 took the 3DS to 275k and MHTriG took it to 350k.

And the PSP took off because it had all the mainline Monster Hunter games. Which are now 3DS exclusive. I mean... come on.

Recent trends are recent trends, they can be changed by one truly big game, which Vita never gets.



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My idea for a new wii u model is a top loading console that plays wii u, wii and gamecube discs directly (easily possible with a top loading design). I'd put a small removable display in a revised gamepad that still functions as a normal gamepad but the screen also slides out of the gamepad and has a passive 3D layer to the screen (bear with me). The screen can then be inserted into a visor attachment with polarised lenses and a small motion sensor is in the display too.

End result a console compatible with 3 generations of discs and a basic cheap VR setup that costs less to make than the current wii u. However the visor accessory would be a additional purchase.

I'd also put a small sata hdd slot in the console but not include the hdd.