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Which game has the hardest bosses ?

Demon's Souls 4 57.14%
 
Dark Souls 1 14.29%
 
Dark Souls II 0 0%
 
I beat NG7+ at SL1 2 28.57%
 
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iBlah said:
VanceIX said:
I'm playing Dark Souls 1 while I prepare for the PC release and I can't get out of Undead Burg :(. Any tips?


what's your class / weapon ?


Wanderer, using a Shortsword

 

 

RenCutypoison said:
VanceIX said:
I'm playing Dark Souls 1 while I prepare for the PC release and I can't get out of Undead Burg :(. Any tips?


For an easy first playtrough, there a few good weapons you can get easily before first boss. Muramasa, Great scythe, astorias blade, check the wikis and youtube for methods to get them.

But it's offtopic bro.

Sorry, just assumed that Dark Souls and bosses was relatively on topic :p. Thanks for the help though!



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GameOver22 said:
The truth is that I felt the same way about Dark Souls. The boss fights were a huge step back for me in terms of quality and difficulty from Demon's Souls. I haven't played Dark Souls 2 yet, but I'll probably pick it up after a price drop.


I would say Dark Souls have more difficult boss fights than Demons Souls, Demons Souls was the hardest for me because I was a noob, but I replayed it last year and the final boss was the only one that gave me some trouble, even Maneaters weren't as hard as I remembered, but in Dark Souls Smough & Ornstein is always hard without summons (unless you're playing a caster), Four Kings and Demon Centipede can also surprise you if you're not careful.



 

VanceIX said:
iBlah said:
VanceIX said:
I'm playing Dark Souls 1 while I prepare for the PC release and I can't get out of Undead Burg :(. Any tips?


what's your class / weapon ?


Wanderer, using a Shortsword

 

Try Estoc if you're struggling, you can pick it up from New Londo Ruins, it can attack behind the shield and does additional backstab damage, also ditch the starting shield asap since it does not block 100% physical damage, the undead merchant sells warrior's starting shield which is really good, personally I think scimitar is the best weapon for wander early on. If you're going for a Dex build, a simple way to make the game really easy is to farm the balder knights near undead church until you get a Balder Side Sword, upgrade it to the maximum and you can easily poke everything to death with it's strong attack.



 

iBlah said:
VanceIX said:
iBlah said:
VanceIX said:
I'm playing Dark Souls 1 while I prepare for the PC release and I can't get out of Undead Burg :(. Any tips?


what's your class / weapon ?


Wanderer, using a Shortsword

 

Try Estoc if you're struggling, you can pick it up from New Londo Ruins, it can attack behind the shield and does additional backstab damage, also ditch the starting shield asap since it does not block 100% physical damage, the undead merchant sells warrior's starting shield which is really good, personally I think scimitar is the best weapon for wander early on. If you're going for a Dex build, a simple way to make the game really easy is to farm the balder knights near undead church until you get a Balder Side Sword, upgrade it to the maximum and you can easily poke everything to death with it's strong attack.


Thanks, gonna farm for the Balder Side Sword then, I will beat this game even if I die trying (and I will, hundreds of times)



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I never found any of the souls series bosses to be hard, imo the bosses on this series are much more about the concept than the fight itself (like Maiden Astreae, The great Grey Wolf Sif, The Pursuer of the Cursed - thats suposed to be his full named Im not making it up - Last Giant, The Old Dragonslayer - aka Orstein). There are some bosses here and there wich ar emore chalenging but overall I never realy had problems with any of them ever since Demons Soul.

Its getting to the bosses that are hard on the Soul series, and DS 2 is the hardest soul game ever.

 

iBlah said:
GameOver22 said:
The truth is that I felt the same way about Dark Souls. The boss fights were a huge step back for me in terms of quality and difficulty from Demon's Souls. I haven't played Dark Souls 2 yet, but I'll probably pick it up after a price drop.


I would say Dark Souls have more difficult boss fights than Demons Souls, Demons Souls was the hardest for me because I was a noob, but I replayed it last year and the final boss was the only one that gave me some trouble, even Maneaters weren't as hard as I remembered, but in Dark Souls Smough & Ornstein is always hard without summons (unless you're playing a caster), Four Kings and Demon Centipede can also surprise you if you're not careful.

I never play a caster and I died 3 times to Smaugh and Orstein on my first playtrough, 1 shot the Demon Centipede (seriously you think the Demon Centipede is chalenging ?) and Four Kings is only hard on NG+ up on NG its one fo the easiest bosses on the series.

And from demons souls the Maneater were more or less chalenging (I remember dying 4-5 times) and Allant gave me some troble I think he killed me some 10 times, other than these 2 nothing stands out either.

Also everyone keep saying "any hard boss like Smaugh and Orstein" even tough I never found them hard thats 1 boss on a roster of 20 or somethign the devs are not aimming to make the bosses hard, they realy arent they want the bosses to make sense coceptually and the fights to be fun.

 

TLDR: The bosses have always been easy its the rest of the game that isnt.



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DakonBlackblade said:
I never found any of the souls series bosses to be hard, imo the bosses on this series are much more about the concept than the fight itself (like Maiden Astreae, The great Grey Wolf Sif, The Pursuer of the Cursed - thats suposed to be his full named Im not making it up - Last Giant, The Old Dragonslayer - aka Orstein). There are some bosses here and there wich ar emore chalenging but overall I never realy had problems with any of them ever since Demons Soul.

Its getting to the bosses that are hard on the Soul series, and DS 2 is the hardest soul game ever.

We must have complete different play style then, I never cared much about common enemies, when I'm not familiar with the game I take it very slowly and make sure I don't draw too many enemies, once I know the game well enough I just roll pass all of them and go straight for bosses.

Anyways poll added.



 

iBlah said:
DakonBlackblade said:
I never found any of the souls series bosses to be hard, imo the bosses on this series are much more about the concept than the fight itself (like Maiden Astreae, The great Grey Wolf Sif, The Pursuer of the Cursed - thats suposed to be his full named Im not making it up - Last Giant, The Old Dragonslayer - aka Orstein). There are some bosses here and there wich ar emore chalenging but overall I never realy had problems with any of them ever since Demons Soul.

Its getting to the bosses that are hard on the Soul series, and DS 2 is the hardest soul game ever.

We must have complete different play style then, I never cared much about common enemies, when I'm not familiar with the game I take it very slowly and make sure I don't draw too many enemies, once I know the game well enough I just roll pass all of them and go straight for bosses.

Anyways poll added.

I always clean up to the bosses, sprintting trough feels like cheesing it. And its not the enemys themselves either its the traps and the fact that you enter a roon and something jumps on your head and kills you. You die you learn and you do not die again, Souls game arent hard on a classical way, theyre more of a learning experience, you never realy die to the same thing twice or the same enemy twice, you die you learn you progress and thats why I love the series.



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DakonBlackblade said:

1 shot the Demon Centipede (seriously you think the Demon Centipede is chalenging ?) and Four Kings is only hard on NG+ up on NG its one fo the easiest bosses on the series.

 

Not challenging, tricky, I occasionally die to Demon Centipede if I'm playing sloppy, same with four kings, sometimes I fool around too much and don't have enough stamina to roll away.

I use to clean up everything, but after playing through the game too many times I just don't have the patience to stop and kill everything, especially if I'm doing a soul level 1 run, I also tried speed run of Dark Souls a couple of times, it's actually quite fun and requires lots of planning and thinking ahead, my best time is around 3 hours I think, nowhere near as good as really pros.



 

iBlah said:
tm said:
I'd have to say yes, but it may be that I came into DS 2 with enough experience from demon/dark souls. I've already finished the game last weekend and defeated most of the bosses first try with no summons. I do know that there are changes to boss fights in ng+ that make them harder.


Exactly how I felt, all their moves become predictable after just a few attacks, I suppose expereince from previous games do carry over, 90% of my death are from surprise ambushes and falling into holes, very few enemies have managed to kill me in a straight up fight. As for NG+ I heard that it's not just the same game with harder difficulty, there will actually be new enemies, new phantoms, new items and some enemies have new attacks, it's kinda like pure black wt from Demons Souls.


It felt exactly like pure black world tendency from Demons Souls to me, but only a couple of bosses actualy change mechanics in most cases they just get more HP deal more damage and some of them get faster (seemed to me liek some of them got faster at least).